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Post by Monikah on Dec 8, 2004 10:01:33 GMT -5
hehehe ... Now that I reread this, it's rather like a pick-up line or job interview, isn't it? "Tell me more about yourself." I'd have difficulty answering this too.
I'll see what questions formulate. Thanks.
M.
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Post by Monikah on Dec 8, 2004 15:17:54 GMT -5
<<I'm not from here, those who are known here as ascended masters et. al are not who I work with.>>
"Where" are you from?
What "type" of entity are you?
"Who" do you work with?
Thanks.
Love,
Mon
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Post by Sowelu on Dec 8, 2004 16:20:01 GMT -5
I'll do my best to answer, but in reading the questions, I'm realizing my answers may seem inadequate. My apologies.<<I'm not from here, those who are known here as ascended masters et. al are not who I work with.>>
"Where" are you from?
Not associated with Sirius, Pleaides (I never spell that right, sorry), Orion, Cassiopaea, or any other group I've read about, from what I understand. I don't have a "race" of beings or family in that sense.
I do, however, feel very strongly that humanity and perhaps many other types of beings are my family. Again, the sense of coming from before the known history of existence here, in a way, pre this universe, so to speak. And, oddly enough, "post" this universe, as well. I had a strong sense at one point that I am the result of many, many lives, as well as the start of them, but did not "personally" live those many lives. Very difficult to put to words.
I've been told at times that I am akin to "Mother", as you know, and also "Durga" (a Hindu goddess with no dogma, independent, etc., birthed in a time of need from the power of all gods of the time, to do what otherwise could not be done). The name "Hildegard" has also been used to explain a bit about the role I play. I have rarely asked much about this, but when I did I was told of one council with which I work, called the "Brevord Council", which is not associated with a dimension or density, as most councils apparently are. It is a council that oversees this entire universe, I gather. I do, apparently somewhat work with or for the Galactic Federation, though not directly, as I understand it.
The difficulty in answering these types of questions is that it has not been of any importance to me to "place" myself within the manifest realm. I see that others do and it is important to their purpose, but for me it seems to be less necessary. I am here in human form now, and other than that, I am that I am. I honestly don't know if there are all that many particulars other than that to be revealed, but if there are, and they were important to my current life path, I assume they'd come out at some point.
One way I could say it for me, a bit tongue in cheek, is that I seem to know life, at its essence. The rest... are mere/myriad details. All of them important, but far too many for me to focus on, when the essence of it all is available. And this attitude seems to fit with what I was given. That I am sourced by "Elemental Triad" or "Essential Energies". It's... my thing. 
Since you asked earlier today about telling more about myself, I recalled something I spontaneously wrote about 10 years ago, while contemplating my existence. I thought I'd share it here:
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In answer to the question,
"How do you live?" I would have to say,
"With my Spirit in the lead, trust and love the only reins, and my body a faithful servant to the journey."
In answer to the question,
"How do you know?" I would have to say,
"By the feel of the moment and natural right action spelling out my intuition."
In answer to the question,
"Who are you?" I would have to say,
"I am more than I currently imagine, more than I could ever remember, and more still than I'll be in my physical future. I am a novice with ancient wisdom, an apprentice with expert skill, I am all I've experienced yet still unborn. I am a product of many, many lives; many, many thoughts; many, many thousands of millions of moments of eternity – yet I do not yet exist. I am ALL THAT IS and only a minute fraction of what could be. I am me."
I would also say, "I am as necessary to the rest of everything as a breath is to one human's moment. The place where I exist is grand central station to all realities."
***
Exactly what I tapped when this flowed so effortlessly, I'm uncertain.
Much love, (((Hugs)))
Sowelu
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Post by Monikah on Dec 9, 2004 13:48:08 GMT -5
Thank you, beloved. Your answers are more than adequate. I put some of my words in quotes to indicate how nebulous these questions were to the way you'd be answering, but I had no other words to describe my curiosities.
I'll get back to you.
Love,
Mon
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Post by AgeA on Dec 9, 2004 17:42:50 GMT -5
Cool, Sowelu! So, You are a being from another Universe.  That brings me to another thing may be we all come here from another Universe/Universes and we just dont remember? One thing is obvious though to me that human race is very very young compairing to just about anyone out there. Majority of ET races which at one point were immature races compairing to Humans are the Ancient One's. I had a vision once of another Universe. It was shown to me how this Universe had been created and apparently this Universe could be considered young as well compairing to other Universes... |
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Post by Monikah on Dec 11, 2004 17:02:33 GMT -5
Sowelu wrote: <<Inner planes. Non-physical, not this realm. As best as I can say. I did ask early on and was given the answer "not this universe". >> There are many here who are not from this universe. <<I was also told I did not come through the Great Central Sun. There are some here who feel this is impossible. My information is that it is not impossible at all, though it is unprecedented and rare.>> Not impossible at all, though rare but important for these times, as the source of all focuses all that is to the alpha omega, the origin of all creation. <<I am called "Ike probe" (pronounced eye-kuh). I have also been called "Angel Wanderer", as well as Zegupta (representative of an energy vortex, akin to priest, it seems), from the Primary Ray, which is not one of the 12 Rays (I think that's what they're called here), but precedes them, in a sense. It is the Unifying Force of Creation. I'm an initial prototype hybrid, from what I understand. >> So you're not an aspect of Ike Eisenhower, eh? (sorry) Akin to priest ... such limited words we have to describe the grandeur of creation. A priest accesses particular energies through the vortex of these energies, you as priest being the consciousness that utilizes the energies particular to that vortex or perhaps controls the vortex and energies to give creation the information. Metaphon and I manifest the ray of unity consciousness. I am the primary feminine ray of unity consciousness and existed prior to differentiating the 12 rays, our 12 "kids." :-) "Aspects" (for lack of a better word) of that primary ray are "aspects" of me, the original mother. I too am a hybrid prototype, new again, as those of mother energy often are. Perhaps our words are different but our origins or purposes near? <<Not associated with Sirius, Pleaides (I never spell that right, sorry), Orion, Cassiopaea, or any other group I've read about, from what I understand. I don't have a "race" of beings or family in that sense. >> As are God.desses and others who did not manifest originally as embodied entities but as light/sound frequencies or rays of consciousness. <<I do, however, feel very strongly that humanity and perhaps many other types of beings are my family. Again, the sense of coming from before the known history of existence here, in a way, pre this universe, so to speak. And, oddly enough, "post" this universe, as well.>> Our information tries to get the point across that known history is limited, even from a cosmic view or the Urantia view, and that there are many universes before and after what is existing Here & Now. This planet's importance as the planetary structure existing within the alpha omega from which all creation emanates stems from waaaay back. And those who "come from waaay back" may see many types of beings as family, as aspects of the self have experienced BEing many beings. << I had a strong sense at one point that I am the result of many, many lives, as well as the start of them, but did not "personally" live those many lives. Very difficult to put to words.>> That is one way to describe me, my family, and also the Oversoul structure. This is my first embodiment here, but I have many many "aspects" of my self that I oversouled and sent into embodiment (all over many universes ... being immortal my expressions are unfathomable even to me) that then return to me for evolution of self and all. It's one reason it's so difficult for me to process all the shit I do, because it is not personally mine. On the other hand, it is mine because those who experienced it are mine. And yet, even ancient as I am, I am new, inexperienced, a baby, and have hardly touched the possibilities. Make sense? <<also "Durga" (a Hindu goddess with no dogma, independent, etc., birthed in a time of need from the power of all gods of the time, to do what otherwise could not be done).>> I understand the necessity of this, and that there are those here of this ilk. How grateful I am for independent agents free of dogma! << The name "Hildegard" has also been used to explain a bit about the role I play. >> What does the name mean? I am not familiar with the Brevord Council, but I understand being not of a particular dimension or density. The Elemental Triad ... trinity forces are the most powerful. The masculine/positive (whatever you call it that polarity), the feminine/negative, and the self/neutral -- the self/neutral one being the zero point or the alpha-omega, the heart, the calm. Is this your first incarnation on this planet? Grand Central Station to all realities ... I love it. The heart, the source, the Isle of Paradise, the alpha omega, the zero point, where nothing changes but nothing remains the same, from which all emanates and to which all returns. I understand. You do seem to know life at its essence and have the words to describe it. AgeA, current earth humans are very young in embodiments and yet the ancientness of what comes through them is difficult to describe. From our view, the seeding of these is in some ways for the sole/soul purpose of clearing up the unascended energies of universes long come and gone. Ancient Ones who manifest as humans bring their wisdom and knowledge through the eyes of the babe. I know absolutely that even though upstairs entities have access to greater use of intellect and a broader relationship with the workings of cosmic structure, none have the depth of understanding that comes through the human heart. That's it for now. Much love, Monikah |
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Post by Monikah on Dec 11, 2004 18:20:39 GMT -5
I just want to be clear that the Great Central Sun through which most have come here is a recent development in the RC view.
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Post by Edward on Dec 12, 2004 2:14:20 GMT -5
If I may impart some comments. From what I have recently gathered, and have been recently coming to terms with a broader perspective( which keeps getting bigger by the day) is that like our emotional clearing and taking of layers and layers as we work through them. I am finding the same is inherently true with the things that make up our experiences and perceptions. Now this can get very lengthy and tricky and complicated and the whole ball of wax ect.... But if I may impart a few notions of just what some of that entails, for example: Soul, purpose, universe(s), dimensions, frequencies, level's of reality, what is reality?, entities, beings. To list the vast intracies would be redundant at best but not to say it would be redundant to list it, but for brevity is all and to give you a glimpse, but a mere glimpse at the over all picture. Now that is a good question. What is the over all picture? Why are we here, what game are we playing and on how many different levels, sublevels are these vast games being played and why do we have to play them? Ok let's get back on track, I was taking about layers now about how there are many layers with-in layers upon layers and then theyse layers are subdivided and placed elsewhere and then you have seperate layers upon layers from the first set of layers and this keeps repeating and before you know it there is all this confusion, and sometimes this leads to different densities.
What I am saying is that there is sooooooooooooo much out there and it's so vast, or it seems to be that way. There are many diffent adjenda's out there and we are all playing many different roles and we are all here to experence certain things. I've been so all over the place with what I want to talk about here so far in this post but there is alot to be said and alot that I want to convey there is alot that I want to express. But to simply put it, like in the movie the "Matrix" You have mutiple adjenda's to how to control certain aspects of certain percieved realities. You have the archietech(forgive my spelling) you have the Oracle, And then you have Zion. Now the oracle and archietech have different adjenda's and philosphies on how to run that realtiy also they are part of a larger reality that they are even apart of. Zion is from a different reality per se then the Matrix they are out side this matrix but they can influence what goes inside the matrix. Then you have levels and sublevels to theses mechanisms(archietech, oracle and zion). Then you find yet again other workings outside mechanisms. There is so much to take in consideration and so much is being played out and there is just SOOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH, that is going on. The same can be said for what we are apart of. Now I hope I did this post and my thoughts justice here and I am sure I will confuse some of you while others may get a sense at what I am conveying. I also realize that I just have zig zaged all of the place and this may not seem to be a coherent post but I can only hope.
In essence I am struggling to put the words and the thoughts/ ideas of what perhaps everyone is thinking but don't know quite how to approach it. More or less this is post that I am trying to share with you, to share some of what is apart of me to share with what I am learning. To help us come together as a whole and as individuals to find our place and to find our standing in the whole elaborate grand scheme of things.
In short, there is alot of SHIT(stuff) out there. Many aspects to things and many variations to those things.
Love, Peace and Enlightenment,
Ed
Phew..............
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Post by Monikah on Dec 12, 2004 11:13:43 GMT -5
Great, Ed. Expanding minds want to know. The concept you are trying to convey is difficult to put into words. Last night and this morning I was back into this too ... and tired of trying to figure it out. LOL I mean, personally (hope not to be too boring) ... --there's my human self whose consciousness has always been here in the alpha omega (I'm a seed of the alpha omega) who is now manifesting as human ... --and my divine self, which is my current human self's consciousness's created aspects who have experienced throughout creation who are now merging to One through my human self ... --and these each had their own agenda which I'm trying to merge to one agenda, as it were ... --and on and on. --And in the reality picture, each of these entities has experienced, embodied in, and sent aspects to many places and many times (physical and non-physical) so each brings their multiple realities (layers) to me, merging and purging through me ... --And then the layers of the societies and dimensions and multi-layered realities where these were manifest that affect it all ... --And the layers of what was going on in the various realms affecting the societies and dimensions where these ones were manifest ... --And the myriad of relationships among all this ... So then I get back to, just let me be me, which is what it's about anyway, and all this other confusion be gone, please. My expanded mind nearly bursts with too many details, but to consciously be one with all that is I need this (type of) info ... The never-ending circle ... or is it a merry-go-round which never stops so you can never get off? Some people don't need this so much, but it's part of my purpose to dig through these layers for my Self and all that is. Also, I wrote: << A priest accesses particular energies through the vortex of these energies, you as priest being the consciousness that utilizes the energies particular to that vortex or perhaps controls the vortex and energies to give creation the information.>> I'm told too this is too 3d. A priest at the level being discussed IS the energies of the vortex (not "accesses the energies") whose consciousness directs these energies. Love, Mon |
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Post by Edward on Dec 12, 2004 13:37:52 GMT -5
Live in the Now and live with the passion of the now for there it is the experience that is at hand and the the other aspects of experience will be/happen in due course but try not to get too caught up in all the confusion which at times can seem, seemless and only when this Merry-go-round slows down is when we can jump off into another vision/version/aspect of ourselves for this will bring in new experiences for the one to have.
That is what I gather. I guess it's prudent not to get all dizzied with such complexities. Just that those complexities are facinating to ponder but are often hard to express in words.
Thanks Monikah. It was just I was having a rush of intellect and excitement of the realms of vast possibilities and I had an understanding of them on a certain knowningness/feeling/level but in all the excitement of wanting to convey what I have realized and my wanting to share, converse and talk about these things I found it more and more difficult to properly articulate these ideas.
Love, Peace and Enlightenment,
Ed
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Post by Sowelu on Dec 12, 2004 15:05:29 GMT -5
Yes, Mon, this resonates more. Early on I was cautioned frequently that I am a very powerful being and it is important not to "toss my energies about casually" as they can cause much disruption unnecessarily. A label used often for me is "Sri".
Regarding Hildegard, an excerpt from a write-up I found on the web:
My council said to me, "You are our Hildegard", indicating, I sensed, that through me the knowledge comes through. I'm the vehicle through which the vast knowledge can reach this level, as Hildegard was in her time.
As for the name itself; Hildegard - Derived from the Germanic elements hild "battle" and gard "enclosure".[/i] - My sense is that it is a deeply symbolic name. In my own experience in this life, the entire "battle of light and dark" has been fought within the enclosure of my energy field, through my consciousness, as it were. Through this process I "enter" the dense energies here, explore both sides of the duality of each conflict, and resolve each within me, thereby bringing light, harmony and resolution to the mass energies here, assisting the whole in fulfillment of the Grand Cycle. Literal en-lighten-ment. [/color]
It's difficult for me to answer because I don't sense "I" existed before this incarnation, but it gets very confusing to explain. Being "from the future", while at the same time "at the beginning", and yet never quite this particular "Self". As though I was formed through many consciousnesses combining to be here through this vehicle now, but not existing in form before as one being.
Thanks, Mon! The questions encouraged inner probing, and that's always a blessed thing. 
Love you! (((Hugs)))
Sowelu
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Post by Monikah on Dec 12, 2004 15:35:51 GMT -5
Ed, I was just pondering, explaining one view of what I thought you were discussing. It is very complex, and I didn't mean to invalidate what you were saying because it did make sense to me.
Sowelu, my place of employment has published 3 books about Hildegard of Bingen. Her significance is becoming more apparent to catholics too.
<<It's difficult for me to answer because I don't sense "I" existed before this incarnation, but it gets very confusing to explain. Being "from the future", while at the same time "at the beginning", and yet never quite this particular "Self". As though I was formed through many consciousnesses combining to be here through this vehicle now, but not existing in form before as one being.>>
Of course this particular human self could not have existed before. More accurately, I guess I wondered if your "first self" had embodied before.
Do you see that the first you (from the beginning, the spark or ray from the primary ray) is the consciousness that formed the many consciousnesses (past, present, and future) that are merging to One through you in this present incarnation? That perhaps your "high self" so to speak (I don't like that term because I am my self) or "higher consciousness" is that "first consciousness" who is you Sowelu embodied, while all the consciousnesses that first self diversified into are coming home to that first consciousness, increasing that first consciousness's knowledge etc. as Sowelu? Thus Sowelu is ancient (first consciousness) as well as new (many consciousness now coming home to first consciousnesses to become one with it)?
I.e., your first consciousness is the mother of the many consciousnesses who are now becoming you, the full consciousness.
Does that make sense?
Thanks to you too.
Love,
Mon
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Post by Sowelu on Dec 12, 2004 15:52:47 GMT -5
Hmmmm... my sense is "no", but why is again tough to put to words. Of all the things I sense about "me", being in another form at some other juncture is not one of them.
If you consider what the feminine essence is, the Void, the Pool of all Potential, it is "the unseen". Perhaps this is where my sense comes from that I have not been "of form" before. I am the energies that produce form, the essential essence that can be formed, but the actual forms were never "me". They combined in unique ways, creating unique individualized consciousnesses of their own, so to speak. I supported, was a part of, but not the Beings themselves. They are aspects, perhaps, but the fullness of "me" has been existent at an essential level, not a specifically manifest one, throughout all of this activity.
All that was added unto the original "essence" (that enabled the birth of so many others), all that was added by those "others", is how it seems I am "from the future", as well. The added creative embellishments on the original source energies "grew" the "me" I was at the beginning, energetically, and that fuller essence is what birthed this me, back here in time.
I'd like to add that I am not complete as yet, and as such may understand many things from a still limited or filtered perspective. In which case, "who I am" and "what I am" may become clearer ... "in time" ;D. Incidentally, it was impressed on me throughout this path that it is important that the revelation of who I am be something that occurs "in time". In my own consciousness as the human vehicle I am, even. Not all at once and be done, but over the cycles in time, because ... well, because... we are IN time here. LOL! It befits the environment, is a "natural unfoldment", and necessary.
Much love and (((Hugs))),
Sowelu
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Post by Monikah on Dec 12, 2004 17:04:04 GMT -5
Thanks again. These things you have been discussing explain more for me, put into words my experience as well in some respects. "I", even my beginning self, have never been in form either but am the Void essence that creates form, though I have "aspects" that are sovereign individuals.
This sure speaks to Ed's comments about the multi-layers of what we're talking about!
Love,
Mon
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Post by Edward on Dec 12, 2004 21:52:03 GMT -5
Mon,
I didn't feel invalidated. So no worries.
Love, Peace, and Enlightenment,
Ed
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