Post by SolarAngels on Jun 17, 2004 5:47:41 GMT -5
nikcanter said:
SolarAngels,Namaste Nic,
I was actualy feeling the same thing Like I had to walk around on egg shells here, because I keeped disagreeing with some peoples and felt they where taking it personaly.
I said once before to you, I doubt that we will agree on much as we come from differant perceptions and thats is ok, we are both right through the lense we are both seeing out of as what works for us personly. I NEVER Said any one was wrong, every thing I say is all based on whats works and is right for me, what is ones persons antiodote can be another persons posion.
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You said, quote, "Judgement is, in fact, making someone wrong because they are different than you in some way".End quote"
I feel one cant make another person feel any thing.
IOts funny how Words mean diffferant things to differant people, I was talking more along the lines of judgement, like dont pick at the spliter in your brothers eye when there is a log in your own. Gossip, etc.
You said, Quote"Sometimes we have to look deep down to find the fear because our conscious minds have not acknowledged it even though it comes out in words and actions. So you could mean to be loving but in fact be judgemental and not see it. THe same goes for me and everyone else. My IC is certainly skilled at pulling the wool over my eyes!" end quote"
I agree
You said, quote" sounded as if you were spouting off credentials to make yourself superior to the others here. I didn't realize when I started this post here that I would be letting my IC express so fully, but she is yelling at me so here goes."
You don't have to qualify yourself with a ray or masculine self or whatever. We don't care and it sounds pompous. I could say I'm a galactic counselor, I'm a member of the council of 12, I have a masters in english and a ba in history and I have two MOS certifications. But why do I need to qualify myself? All we need to know is the energy behind your words and what your words say. End quote"
Nik, this in a interesting pice of words here you use, it seems you do have to qualify your self cause you just did above with your little list of treats, giggles.I have seen that you claim to channel thoth, angels, and other beings and say so, you say this is from this being and that being etc, so whats the differance?.
You said in a eariler post.
quote" I tend to be direct with my thoughts and don't sugarcoat, and I know I can rub some the wrong way but that's just me. This is a place to have lively discussion so as to work through our thoughts, feelings, and broaden our horizons and that's what I'm doing here. end quote"
Nic I like to be the same, and was shareing why I felt poeople got triggerd by my words because of the energy behind them ,you said above, you are only interestied in the energy behind my words, well it was first ray. I find what you said a double standard. If this is the case then maybe you shoud dstop saying you channel this being and that being etc? I have never before on this site said I have channeld any one, nor have a put a post from me saying this was me channeing this or that being, but you have many times and I think from memory your site has channelings on it. I felt it was aporriate becasue some peopel got triggerd from my post, and the first ray does that for some, I dont know if you know any thing about the rays but the first ray does seem to have that affect with some peoples.
You said quote,
"And you talk so much about praying for others and god helping them. WE DO NOT NEED, NOR DID WE ASK FOR, ANY HELP AND DO NOT NEED YOUR PRAYERS!! DON'T DO ANYTHING FOR US UNLESS WE ASK!! end quote"
I Havent prayed for you once Nic, even since you first joined earth council even on the old earth council site, for I know its not your thing, I have prayed to God to remove any energies that you have directed to me that are not of the christ/buddha energy, but thats the closest you have come into my prayers.
I am not here to help you Nic ,I find what you said above plain rude, but I am also aware that in your path you give you inner child free regin to dicate your emotions etc, I am not her to save any one, I am here looking for serous discussion about serious indepth matters of phycology and spiritual truths, it was my hope that I wouldnt have to deal with ego sensitive peoples, but I know thats not always the case in forums such as this. thats the only reason Nic, I am not interested in saveing any one, I am only interested in finding truth. You may not think prayer is worth any thing I happen to think it is. But what you said above if it was your inner child well to be blunt he/she sounds liek a brat giggles, that was a joke
. You said quote"
(Self talking again)So what it comes down to SolarAngels is that I think you caretake people. Not TAKE CARE OF people, but caretake. There's a difference, and the difference is that a) you caretake if they don't ask and b) if they can do it themselves but are relying on you you're caretaking. That's another place the energy exchange comes in. end quote"
Nic, I know how to put up boundires, and I know when my energy is not wanted or needed in situations.
If A person comes to me for help I help them how I can, if I see a person in pain on the gutter for example, who says hello to me, I will say a prayer for them, and tag on the prayer as long as there higher self agress and it is in harmony with divine law, thats clean and legal and free will is not violated, you may not agree, but I have spend hour upon hours in meditation asking spirit if thats kewl by them and its in harmony with divine law, and they say it is, you may have other opinions and thats ok.
You said quote"
And one more thing here - churches, etc. need money. Why? Because they have to operate and it takes money to do so. Now, I do have a problem with them acting like it's a free service (hypocritical) but let's face it it is not because they have to pay staff, for their space, etc. Same with others. Even "gurus" and such probably require at least food in return!,end quote"
I dont go to church and never have and quite honestly dont agree with them, I feel the best church is ones heart, but I also are aware that they may work for soem people. Once again , you have completly missed my entire meaning of what I was saying all along, I never said chargeing money was bad, I was talking about, agendas, motives, intent, and atatchement when it comes to money and spiritual teachings etc,and how this afefcts the clarity of what comes through a persons channel, you may think all spiritual teachers and healers are all in intergrity and all open to the same higher truths, I dont. And thats ok.
You saids Quote"
hope you're not afraid to clear with me SolarAngels and I didn't mean to if I have hurt your feelings. I know everyone's "skin" isn't as thick as mine and I feel you might be new to emotional clearing (if I am wrong I'm sorry). I guess I supressed my IC and so I had to honor her by telling you all of this. Yes, they are my feelings, but I know that in every "conflict" that there is something for both people in what each of them is feeling. It's all a lovely mirror. end quote"
I will be honest here Nic , and you may not like what I am going to say here. So I apoligize to any one in advance who may take what I say in negative way. you can bealive me or not,.
My feelings where not hurt by what you said, I was only concernd that I have to walk around on egg shells here, becasue I have differant perceptions than some of the members, and that if one doesnt agree with certain moderators or poplular members , then they are being judgmental, and have feleings of superiority or think they are better than every one else. And then they start making personal charecter asasinations on there charector, I dont think I am better than any one at all, I dont think I actualy know any thing of what there is.
I feel I can not speak here with full empowerment. So I dont, I have wanted to reply to many threads and conversations here, but havent becasue quite frankly I get projections sent my way by some people who cant control there energies.
Now me saying that I know that you probably think there he goes again big noting him self with feelings of superiorioty, etc, I am claiesentient Nic, I have very sensitve energy fields, I can feel my main 7 chakras and my aura , I can feel when beings come into my aura, and I can most definitly feel it when energy is sent my way.
I can understand, people whom let there inner child have its say and express it self, for I do, I have spent many many hours dialoging with my inner child, but I bring my inner child up with firmness and love, if my inner child is statrting to act up I take steps to sort it out ether via dialoging it or meditating with it, with Love.
I let my inner child know that I am the boss, I lead the show, it does not dictate my life. I feel if someone is triggerd by there inner child or there emotional self and need to get it out, then go to the rant folder or the emotional clearing folder and do it there, if we are discussing a topic, then stick to the topic and dont start pointing fingers at soemone who shared there perception, up until when you and white queen started saying this and that about me, I did not mention any oens name , I didnt mention any teacher, I stuck to the subject matter, if any one has issues about what one posts, then go to the other folder and start it there, just a suggestion.
I hope I havent been a catalyst to offend anyone.
Thank you for being honest Nic.
Om Shanti means peace Nic.
Om Shanti with Love.
SolarAngels
