Ascension Of Blue Race

[Nicole]

My 2 cents quickly...

I didn't resonate either. Some of it felt correct but too much was crap for me to keep reading.

Anyhow, about the ascended masters, etc "charging"...everything requires an exchange of energy. Here our exchange is done via money. So yes, AM's et al get some sort of energy exchange. Everything in this universe is give and take. Energy can be anything physical or non-physical.

Love!
Nicole

[SolarAngels]

Namaste Nik,
I was wondering what is the energy exchange you feel masters get while helping?

Maybe I will agree to disagree

For my self personly, If I am ever blessed to be able to asisst one to move into more love, or assist one to remove suffering from them self or pain, that is the gift right there, knowing one has moved into love.

I feel helping another is really helping my self, and I feel the masters feel that way also.

They ask nothing of me in terms of, they dont help me with conditions, or I will do this for you if you give me that etc, they do however help in a way of wisdom that is perfect for me at that time.

They do ask if I would be interested in doing certain spiritual assinments for them, but this is not a condition that comes with the help they offer me, I can and do say no at times, and they are kewl with that, and still come to my every call.

I dont always get exaclty what I ask for in terms of asisstance, I get what is for my highest good at that time.

I ask for nothing nor do I expect any thing in return, for then I would be giving love with conditions.

Which kind of makes the words selfless service, and unconditional love meaningless, imo.

Please understand, I am not bagging any one who charges for spiritual services, nor do I think its wrong, I am simply shareing my truth in how my heart presents it to me.

I am also aware, that truth is in the eye of the beholder.
Om Shanti.
SolarAngel.

[Nicole]

Solar Angel,

When you help someone, what do you get in return? Do they have to ask you for help? Do they take the time to work with you? Do they simply say thank you? Those are both examples of energy exchanges. Like when a professor gives a lecture. He gives the lecture, others who want to hear it give their time and attention. Does that make sense to you?

Love!
nicole

[SolarAngels]

Namaste Nik,

I understand that there is a balance to every thing, when to give and when to recive.

What I was talking about was the intent behind the giving.

For example , if some one asks me for a healing (unconditional love) they are opening up to reciving.

So I open up a channel for unconditional love to flow through me, for it to be unconditional love flowing through my channel I have to push the ego aside and not have conditions in the back of my mind, like, I am only giving to recive soemthing in return, or I wont give unless I recive something, I give love with out any conditions attached to it.

Then it is up to them what they do with that love, it matters not to me, whether they apreciate it or not, or say thank you even, they opened them self up to reciveing, so I gave with out conditions, I havent held any thing back, meaning there wasnt alterior motives for me doing it, like to recive any thing for me personly, except the knowing that helping another is helping self for we are all one.

Om Shanti.
SolarAngels

[ADMIN]

Sowelu,
You may have something there! I must have some resenment here, thou currently I feel like I am from all races and know that they are part of one source. What really triggered me is that it says the Ascension of the Blue Race. What about the others? Will they not ascend? That is what really triggeres me...

[Nicole]

Solar Angel,

I understand what you mean. And it has made me think about and realize that what I'm really talking about here is equal exchange of energy. Equal exchange of energy is very important with "equal" being the key word. Have you ever entered into some sort of exchange and felt like you were putting out more energy than the other? For instance, in a conversation you were listening intently but felt the other person wasn't? Or you agreed to help someone but ended up doing it all for them? Does that make sense?

If we enter into anything with another being that isn't an equal exchange of energy then we begin to be drained of our own energy. While that may seem like a noble cause for some, what really happens is that our Selves (and inner children, etc. - whoever makes up OUR being!) cannot sustain us in good health or whatever when our energy is drained.

Energy vampires are a good example. They're definitely getting something from us, but we get nothing back from them and thus get drained. We cannot exist when we are drained.

So there must be something in return. That something is what you your Self need in order to give whatever it is that you're giving. For instance, when I do a session I charge $75 for an hour. That is what my Inner Child and I believe that our energy is worth and anything less would leave us feeling drained and used. But in other cases I don't want money...I want other things. So you must decide what you need and set boundaries accordingly.

As for ascended masters, well, IMO they wouldn't be ascended masters if they didn't already practice this concept! So whatever they need in exchange for their services I'm sure they get. They obviously don't deal in money as we know it so they "get" something else. You just simply can't be of service to others if you don't take care of your self first!

Love!
Nicole

[Nicole]

MirRA,

Interesting, I didn't even pick up on the blue race being the only one. I glossed right over that!

But a thought came to mind here when reading your post. You know sometimes channels aren't clear and they get the info skewed in some way. I have read so many times and it resonates about this cycle ending with a blue energy. Everything seems to be blue. So I wonder if the channel really was getting something about that, and so thus those on this planet would be the blue race. I don't know - either way that feels more right than what was said. Just thought I'd bring it up!

Love!
Nicole

[SolarAngels]

Namaste Nik,

I agree that setting up appropriate boundaries is important on the path.

Being drained of energy, I feel from my own experience in it, I have been clairsentient all my life, so I have had many lessons in that area, of course the reasons for being drained could be many. For example, not owning ones personal power, not keeping ones golden bubble of protection up that allows positive love energy through and negative energy slides of the bubble.

I feel mostly, its cause of attachment or judgment, meaning, wanting someone to act or be a certain way, and when they don't be or act how one wants them to be, one gives there power away, and gets off balance, cause they are attached to them being a certain way.

Preferences is the ideal so if one does not get what they want, one is still happy.

This all stems from not being right with self first. For example the man or women, whom does the house work or cooks dinner, when they are not right with self first, or to only get praise or attention, and when they don't get it, they get of balance. Meaning they had the wrong motives for doing it in the first place.

I mean if one is going to cook someone a meal, cook it cause one wants to, cause you love them. If you dont really want to dont, get them to cook it or go out to eat.

I feel God/Goddess treats us how we treat others.

I work as a carer in aged care, and just about all the residents there have scizofrenia, bi polar, dementia and other mental problems, and quite a few are totally depended on us, they cannot do any thing for them self, so we have to do it all for them, all day residents who can talk properly want things, so we give, now its only when one is attached to them acting, doing or being a particular way, and they don't , that the employees get of balance, quite honestly in this example it has nothing to do getting any thing back in exchange cause they cant. And I never get drained at work while I am caring for residents never.

I agree as I said in another post, one must know when to give and when to receive. there must be a balance, if one is drained, then they need to receive, or need to reconnect with there source, protect them self etc. If one is not right with self first, then they are only going to cause problems by trying to help or heal another.

I feel every person is trying to be there own source, to have the channel open to there God/Goddess self, so source energy flows through them, so they are there own source on earth, of course many are not connected in this way so they get energy from others.

The law of abundence states that there is abundent energy every where, there is God/Goddees whom gives this energy freely, there is our own God/Goddess self source, and if we get dranied its cause we have shut of this connection. This does not mean we run our selves to the point of over service, it means we have the balance of give and reciveing, and letting love find us, we must be open to reciving love from source, if we are not we wont.

I feel if we are opening up the channel to give we give, with out conditions, and when we open up to recive we recive and let love find us.

I will agree to disagree, when I give, I give for the Love of God/Goddess, to be of service, its only when I give with the intent in my mind that I have to get somthing in return that I get of balance or get dranied, its only when I have atachments that are not met, or do not own my personal power and golden bubble, that I get dranied, as we are all unique , I am sure this is not the same with every one.

There are many different perceptions and views of how a Ascended Master is, and also what enlightenment is. Some have higher standards than others of what mastery is, some are more emotional , some more mental, some are a blend of both, some with many should and should nots, some more allowing.

I feel its the same with actual masters, some are more mental , some more disciplined, some more emotional ,some have higher standards of what mastery is. Maybe we are drawn to the particular masters and energies we are comfortable with, with guides, etc.

Thank you for this thread of talks, it has been interesting.

In Love and service.

SolarAngel

[Nicole]

Hey SolarAngel,

I wanted you to know I didn't mean to imply that anyone should expect something in return for giving. It's just that everyone should be clear on their boundaries and act accordingly.

Love!
Nicole

[SolarAngels]

Namaste Nik,
I totaly agree on being clear on boundries.

I was at work yesterday, and was pondering the idea that our cells, are actualy like send and recive buttons on a computer type thing, so even if phisicaly and on a conscious level one cant give back in return, on some level our cells are giveing and reciving all the time.

I feel our cells communicate with each other also.

Om Shanti.
SolarAngels

[Nicole]

Oh, me too! They'd have to to be able to work together ya know!

Love!
Nicole

[whitequeen]

Hi everyone,
A few thoughts on this thread.

First, Merkeba means lighbody and in this post it is being used in a manner which doesn't reasonate to that meaning. It seems the term is being used to define some kind of a weapon like a nulcear bomb. So from that point I sense there is some divergent information here and my truth meter rings loud and clear that there is something out of place.

Second, from my past studies I belive I remember there are 5 master races on Earth from which humans are a composite. I am not referring now to the galactic races but to the races that supposedly are here and present in 3D. They are white, red, yellow, black and blue. And if I remember correctly the blue race is supposed to be the mother race of the Indian/Pakistani/Tibetan etc.

Just what I remember from years ago. Can't validate it or anything else.

And third, about the money exchange:

On this planet we as a group of souls have agreed upon a method of transferring energy and that method is trade, barter, money what ever you want to call it. It is physical in nature rather than non-physical.

Originally that transfer of energy between people may have been energeitc and non-physical but over time the group soul of the planet agreed to utilize a variety of material things to share energy.

In days of old and in places on the planet where were refer to 'third world', barter is used. Over time money was invented as people became travellers and found it rather difficult to transport all their herds from one place to another for trade.

It doesn't matter who introduced the idea of money or if you want to assign it to the darkness. To me that is irrelevent. What does matter is that the group soul agreed to accept this as a manner of exchange among ourselves world wide.

As a result of the agreed upon 'illusion' we have based our entire society on the use and transfer of money in it's most base form. All things available are available only if you 'buy' them. ( I am not including societies that still use barter, although even that applies to this concept)

So, since we have agreed upon this as a group, and have yet to transmute this agreement, people gotta have money to use to live.

It is unrealistic to expect people who have spent their lives working, studying, learning and paying for access to knowledge to be willing to live in poverty to offer what they know to people who unwittingly have chosen poverty as their path.

I believe it is part of the true nature of the middle pillar, the point of neutrality and centerdness that we spiritual beings learn to attain balance by learning that money is not bad or good. It is just a way that we transfer energy in 3D.

By negating the importance of money in our society it is an insult to those of us who have spent so much time and money learning what we have and going through the journey we have gone through so we can give back to society. Much of the information we have gained has had to be paid for.

True, it would be wonderful to return to a place where it is not necessary to use money to transfer energy among living beings. But we are not at this time afforded the luxury of that.

Furthermore, as others have mentioned here, most people do not find value in something given for free and most need to offer an exchange and they don't even know about energy exchanges. It's important for the teachers to realize that without this exchange the students are walking away and back into ignorance.

Why waste time teaching peope who don't understand universal principles? It's important to teach the most basic principles before the advanced ones.

If the time ever comes that someone offers me a way in which to live that is pleasing and comfortable to me, a way in which to have the things I love around me without using money, you can bet I'll be in the front of the line waiting to give back huge doese of energy in exchange for that.

On the other hand, I nor many others who teach are willing to live in abject poverty just to please people who believe that enlightenment should be given freely without some return of nurturing to support the teacher.

As a life long teacher and healer in this life time, I have always given freely to the extent I am able, but personally, I also have to live as do all the rest. It is a myth that we can live on mana in the 3D universe. In this universe mana is spelled M-o-n-e-y.

Sorry to have gotten off on an emotional tangent, but this topic comes up all to often and frankly upsets me tremendously. It's people who believe that we should give away what god give freely that make me feel taken advantage of.

After all, if it is so easy to access this information and awareness, then why doesn't everyone just do it on their own? And there there won't be any need for the teachers and wise men.

It's a balance that we all have to learn to live with and integrate before we ascend. This is here for us to learn from and to synthesize into our beings. If it were not important for us as a group soul to address this principle on a wider platform, it would not be present in our reality.

We are all responsible for the creation of this illusion and all need to digest it's meaning and why we created it. That being said, as above so below, etc. There must be some form of greater cosmic monetary exchage from whence we envisioned the idea in the beginning.

Just my humble opinion on my soapbox for today!

WQ

[annarita]

White Queen wrote:

"It is unrealistic to expect people who have spent their lives working, studying, learning and paying for access to knowledge to be willing to live in poverty to offer what they know to people who unwittingly have chosen poverty as their path."

I agree, and would also like to add that some spiritual folks who have issues of financial lack because they feel they should not ask for money for their services are not honoring their own worthiness.
I too have studied a lot, paid for many seminars and workshops, bought tons of books and tapes and cds.
I work with people who are willing to exchange green energy with me and know that it is an investment in their own well-being and abundance means not just financial but in all aspects of their lives.

[Nicole]

Yep, anything we do is an investment in self. I bet those people who don't want to pay for anything at least manifest what it takes for them to live/exist here. If you need it, and it is something you want to manifest, you can manifest the funds to have a session, buy whatever, etc. I don't mind helping others, especially if they truly cannot help themselves, but I don't give energy away for free. Been there, done that. It drains me.

Love!
Nicole

[whitequeen]

Dito, dito, dito! ;D