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Post by Edward on Jan 6, 2006 23:42:12 GMT -5
Ok, this happened today as I layed down on my bed just to rest. Now I was in state of near sleep. I was tired but still concious. I had thoughts going through my head somewhat as the mind does have it chatter. But then just between the eye's and above it(mind you my eye's were closed at the time). I saw some visual imagery. Now this was a bit different then the usally imagery that comes from memory and they are almost like a freeze frame type stuff and a little different then what one would remember from a dream like memory of movement. What I had seen was something akin to live movement and it was fluid and not erratic at all. I only saw this for a brief moment. I saw a person, human in form standing holding some paper looking of some sort of all different colors and it had strange writting/symbols on it. At first I was reminded of the cartoon batman series from the 1990s of when someone was in a dream state and all the words were in this indistinguishable bable. As I tried to focus more on it I think came back to the area of my eyes and I then started losing focus of the fluid visual image I had seen beteween my eyes and raised above slighty and in front of them. Kinda like I had to have my eye's crossed to see image something along those lines. Now I know this human looking figure was in a well lit room. I could sense and feel structure with-in the room as pillars and such.. Also I believe it was a man. He was holding the colored paper like files in his right arm/hand while he was filing/sifting through them with his left hand/fingers. What I can describe this looking like just like I was there or like a movie. But I was only able to maintain this for 3-5 seconds before my concious mind came back to my eyes to try to focus of what I was seeing, and when that happend, the scenery just faded it like a movie as well. I was still in a deep restful state while this happened and I didn't open up my eyes. I also must mention at the same time I first recieved the imagery, I was I think I am remote viewing because again it was like I was right there off to the right shoulder of this human looking man holding this colored paper like material with wierd symbols and lettering. None if it was even close to what I have ever seen on this planet atleast. Shorty after trying to refocus and get a better view on the letting I then started to lose focus on the live action visual imagery.
So, what do you all think? Was this my first concious Remote viewing session or was I some how OBE or was I accessing other parts of my senses and faculties that I have as being of energy?
Peace, Love and Enlightenment,
Ed
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Post by LilliHart on Jan 7, 2006 1:30:08 GMT -5
No, Ed, this was not remote viewing...as far as I know of it. It may have been some kind of telepathic vision through your third eye or a past or future life memory or other psychic experience.
Remote viewing is a conscious, intentional thing and doesn't happen by coincidence.
Liliahnah
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Post by tiamat on Jan 7, 2006 18:18:20 GMT -5
Heya Ed Pretty cool experience eh? Like Lil, i don't feel this was remote viewing. My understanding is that it is a conscious, and often guided activity with a third party. Sounds more like an OBE. Although i really dont know. Hope you can find out more, and perhaps recreate the experience. Good luck
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Post by Edward on Jan 7, 2006 19:34:15 GMT -5
I was concious throughout the whole deep relaxation/deep medative state and or sleep state.
I've been working on trying to open up my senses while falling into these states , but I do feel that one can be triggered spontaneously into recieving a vision or viewing something with real time like streaming if I can say such a thing. For this was so very fluid, smooth and for a brief moment. It was Unlike any other vision I have previously had.
Peace, Love and Enlightenment,
Ed
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Post by Nemue on Jan 7, 2006 20:20:11 GMT -5
Ed, have you ever practiced astral projection?
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Post by Edward on Jan 7, 2006 20:24:05 GMT -5
No I haven't Nemue, not conciously atleast or knowingly known what it was at any time.
Peace, Love and Enlightenment,
Ed
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Post by Nemue on Jan 7, 2006 20:54:23 GMT -5
I just wondered if perhaps this is what you experienced. You might want to explore this a little more.
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Post by Sowelu on Jan 7, 2006 20:57:38 GMT -5
I've had a similar experience, Ed. While it may not be the "official" remote viewing as mankind has come to define such a thing, it may well be a form of viewing remotely, in my opinion, as was the experience I had. When I asked my own guidance what it was that occurred, the answer was simply that I perceived from a different level of consciousness that had access to a far greater vista. In my experience I was in a light meditative state while sitting on a bus (of all things, heh heh) with children playing and singing and people generally making noise behind me. I tend to prefer quiet but I was in a public situation so I chose to meditate and focus on my heart rather than my petty tyrant who would have liked to control the situation. While lightly meditating and smiling at the song the youngest girl started ("Jesus loves me" - to which many joined in), eyes closed and feeling a bit of peace in spite of all the activity... I suddenly could see the interior of the bus, though my eyes were closed. It was at the eye level one would expect. But I also had a "burn hole" begin about a foot or so above the eye level, kind of like the old start of Bonanza (if anyone knows what I'm referring to), and as the hole enlarged I was simultaneously viewing another scene entirely. In my case, it was the exact physical scene you would see if you were sitting on top of the bus. So I watched things zoom by, saw the telephone wires, sky, trees, etc. all of which I could not see from the interior of the bus, and from a perspective that would be as if I was sitting on top of the bus. Again, all the while at the same time I was viewing the bus's interior... and all with my eyes closed. Another time during a meditative state I saw a medieval scene in a similar way, and was given the same explanation. In that scene, the being I was viewing was looking right back at me and talking to me, as if I had entered another self, perhaps, one that was involved in that scene. There is a feeling that comes with dreams and astral events that is tangibly different than when one encounters a conscious "reality" event that is as "real" as our physical existence here in these bodies in 2006, you know? Each of the two viewing scenarios I experienced carried that sense of being actual and occurring in "realtime", so to speak. If we remember that all time is actually NOW to the higher levels of consciousness not veiled in this realm, then we would likely be able to view any number of scenarios remotely, in any "time". Anyway, just thought I'd offer my two cents on the subject.
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Post by Edward on Jan 7, 2006 21:23:28 GMT -5
Thanks Sowelu.
And to this "realtime" you speak of I experienced that and something similar to your bonanza hole. The scene was as fluid and as motionful as like your situation on the bus but I saw I had a brief view of 3-5 seconds and then as I Lost focus the bonaza hole started to come into effet and the scenery seem to fade at the same time.
Peace, Love and Enlightenment,
Ed
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Post by LilliHart on Jan 10, 2006 23:30:26 GMT -5
Sowelu, What you were experiencing while on the bus is called 'bi-location' where you are able to view two things at once...usually one is when you are conscious of the physical and what is going on around you and the other is either from a different angle of perception or a completely different scene.
I have done this quite a bit both by conscoius choice and recently it just happened. In the most recent incident I was in a mediation and was actually chanting a mantra in the 'present, physical NOW' and at the same time I was on the 5th dimensional plane viewing AND expereincing an initiation that I had begun 10,000 years ago in Egypt but had been unable to complete and 'died' during it.
This was one of the most intense experiences of my life and it was all during a bilocation and lasted for about 30 mintues. The initiation was later completed on another night during a special ceremony I was instructed to seek out. Ever since this I have been having unbelievable experiences in general.
But, back to bilocating...you can actually train yourself to do this. It requires certain states obtained in meditation.
Remote viewing is similar to bilocating only it is done without sending your 'essence' or astral body out to view elsewhere or experience elsewhere. Remote viewing is done in the mind and from the mind, not the astral body. It requires a certain discipline which can be taught or can be acquired naturally. In most cases actual remote viewing is often a violation of spritual law. Some bilocation is also a violation of that law.
There was a time many years ago where I was practicing exercises to train my mind's eye to doing bilocation using OBE' s. I willed myself while in my room in mediation, to go to 'visit' a friend's house (who, btw, was also working on the same exercises). When I 'arrived' in my astral body I found myself hovering on the ceiling of his bathroom while he was taking a bath. I was so fascinated with having accomplished my goal of 'getting there' that I forgot to leave and give him his privacy. Boy did I pay for that. LOL
Next day he appeared in MY bathroom while I was in the tub lolling away the hours and I saw him hanging on the shower curtain rod laughing at me. I even heard him laugh. He was a much more advanced adept at that time than I was. I knew then I had been caught in the act, so to say.
You have to be really careful to respect the laws of nature when you do this kind of hocus pocus. LOL
Liliahnah
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Post by Sowelu on Jan 11, 2006 0:13:36 GMT -5
I appreciate your knowledge of these things, Liliahnah, but there was no intention on my part, and so no laws would be broken, imo. The sense I had was that it was "gifted to me" from my greater Self so that I could become aware of more of the skills that lie dormant within me. The earlier time it happened, with the medieval scene, it was more of a message and pertinent to lessons I was going through at the time (the scene itself spoke volumes I didn't relate here).
To me it's a glamour of sorts, and I have no interest in furthering such skills from this level unless it's somehow needed as an aspect of a service I might provide in some fashion. And even then, I wouldn't personally will it, I'd likely ask (if such a circumstance came up) and if it was given then I'd trust it was appropriate.
I've never been much for intending or practicing what we might call psychic gifts. To me they are natural to us all inherently, and so they will arrive when it's appropriate for our consciousness level, and likely for specific use that serves the whole.
I'm aware through inner work and connection to Higher Self and guidance that I have the full complement of skills in my capacity, and the phrase used was that they would become available "when the personality is sufficiently prepared". In this realm there is such a tendency toward masculine dominance that it seems prudent to me, at least, not to pursue what isn't naturally within my purview, as it tends to be an ego/mind pursuit with an agenda for some kind of aggrandizement or control.
In the meantime, my focus is on what's before me, which is often quite enough, thank you! LOL! Of course I'm here in a slightly different way and perhaps for a slightly different purpose than many, so it may be at the base of why I feel so about all that. Not sure.
I'm aware that many are here to open to these talents and discipline themselves to use them responsibly, offer them in service, etc. but it seems not to be the case for me. Perhaps I should add "so far". *heehee*
Love you! ((((Hugs)))) Sowelu
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Post by LilliHart on Jan 11, 2006 21:05:18 GMT -5
"I appreciate your knowledge of these things, Liliahnah, but there was no intention on my part, and so no laws would be broken, imo. "
Hi Sowelu, I wasn't implying YOU broke universal laws...just that anyone doing this kind of exercise 'with conscous intent' be careful to be aware that they exist. As usual all of my words didn't come out of my thinking process. :-)
And also, I think there is a great purpose for some to do this kind of 'work' or exercise. Becasue it involves extreme discipline of multiple levels of the mind/body/etheric body/emotional body construct, it helps the person who is experiencing it to develope discipline and resolve. After all it requires being here in 3D consciously as well as being consciously elsewhere at the same time.
'In the meantime, my focus is on what's before me, which is often quite enough, thank you! LOL! Of course I'm here in a slightly different way and perhaps for a slightly different purpose than many, so it may be at the base of why I feel so about all that. Not sure. '
I agree with you and also feel I have come here in a slightly different way and with a different purpose than many. Doing some of the studies and exercises I have previously done has enables ME to be able to teach as well as become aware of realities that others experience that i have not had the pain or pleasure of expereincing. Not to say YOU haven't of course. :-)
When I do things like this now, as in the day when I expereinced the most profound initiation, it is almost 'accidental' (yeah right!). There was not conscious intent when I went into the meditation. But as I began the journey through it I chose to stay there and then the intent became more than evident. It was my choice to continue in this direction with conscious intent and to stay conscous all the way through.
(((Huggs))) right back atacha!
I'm aware that many are here to open to these talents and discipline themselves to use them responsibly, offer them in service, etc. but it seems not to be the case for me. Perhaps I should add "so far". *heehee*
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Post by liza on Jan 12, 2006 7:49:01 GMT -5
Isn't it neat that we are becoming aware of our multidimensional capabilities?
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