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THE TOBIAS MATERIALS
The Clarity Series: "SHOUD 9" - Featuring Tobias, channeled by Geoffrey Hoppe
Questions and Answers
Presented to the Crimson Circle
April 1, 2006[/b]
www.crimsoncircle.com
And so it is, dear Shaumbra, that we continue the energy of this gathering of the New Energy, the New Energy classroom, you the New Energy Shaumbra physicists.
We want to add a few notes to the Shoud today. First, about these Destiny Seeds that we discussed. They were put there by you as a way of keeping you from getting trapped in your own creations. They were put there by you to assure that you would move or change the energy. It was like a type of failsafe system. It was a type of security network that you put into place to make sure that you would continue moving or evolving in this lifetime.
But now... now that you have gone through so many changes, now that your entire energy has been accelerated, now that you have cleared so much from the past and now that you realize that you don’t have to get trapped in your own creations... it is very appropriate to deactivate or totally release these Destiny Seeds.
You don’t have to spend days or months of time working at this. We created an energy today in this Shoud, an energy for Shaumbra, so that they could be released right away. These Destiny Seeds are just a form of consciousness, a form of... a type of Point of Separation, and they can be released very easily. Some of them have been energetically embedded into your physical body, into certain organs in your body, but they can be released as easily as what we have done today. A little bit of breathing, permission, allowing yourself to change - and they go away.
We could see that even at the end of the Shoud that some of you are concerned that you didn’t get them all, that they’re stuck. (Some laughter) We want to assure you that they can go away very easily. We want to assure you that you don’t need to worry about them and if you find yourself worrying or in fear, just once again, take that breath, let those Destiny Seeds be deactivated or completely released from your reality base. Let them go. They’re not going to come back either. They’re not going to come back. Some of you worry about “What if your energy hasn’t changed sufficiently, will they come back?” There’s no need for them now.
We also wanted to mention briefly about the Old Earth and the New Earth choosing not to meld at this time. How does that effect what you’re doing? How does that effect the ones you love who are going to remain in the Old Energy Earth?
First of all, from your standpoint, it’s going to actually allow you to move faster or at least less encumbered, less held back. It’s going to allow your expansion and evolution to come more gracefully and in - what you would call - a shorter time period. Therefore, if you have gone through your integration into the New Energy that much smoother and quicker, think perhaps for a moment or feel how you can be a more effective teacher and guide and helper for those others who’ve chosen to remain back. You can come back to them as a teacher, as an example, in a much clearer way than ever before. You can be a better human guide for them when they choose to make their transition into New Energy as well.
So, in spite of it appearing that this is bad news or negative news, it actually has many, many built in benefits to it. And while this whole feeling of separation will continue for a time, understand that they are choosing it, you are choosing it, and honor the appropriateness of all of that.
And with that we would be delighted to take your questions.
LINDA: Thank you. This is related to disconnection I guess.
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 1 (from the Internet, read by Linda): Hello. I’m sorry but I do not understand the reasons that the traditional family must be broken. My wife, who was an avid follower of Tobias, has left - not only me but her children as well. I’m an open, spiritual person who does not mistreat, abuse, berate or not supportive to my wife. I am much the opposite. I am supportive, don’t drink, don’t cheat, don’t hold my wife back from what she wants, support her every need and allow her the freedom to be herself.
However, after attending the sexual healing workshop and DreamWalker workshop, which we did not have the money to spare but I supported her going anyway, my wife now rejects anything to do with this family, her children and myself. If she rejects me that’s her choice, but why the children? We have two boys, 6 and 10 years of age, that need their mother to be involved in their lives. She now says that after attending the workshops, our love is no longer real and it is just an old belief system, as is “family” is just an old belief system. Do you feel this is appropriate? Have your Shouds been misinterpreted? Can you explain to me why my wife has rejected everything to do with this family? Please try to explain.
LINDA: Thank you.
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 2 (a woman at the microphone): Tobias, my daughter is going through somewhat suffering. Is there anything you can suggest or a message for her?
SHAUMBRA 2: Thank you.
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 3 (from the Internet, read by Linda): Tobias, in my humble, human understanding of stepping out of mass consciousness, I have let my car registration expire, have no health or car insurance and did not file taxes for last year as I believe these are all examples of the hypnotic overlays that confine us. I’ve recently received notice from the IRS that they would like me to file my return and they’ve added a rather large fine! (laughter) How can we truly leave mass consciousness behind if the local, state and federal governments have all these systems in place to track us in? Am I missing the point? (more laughter)
LINDA: Mine – I think I stand out like a sore thumb! (some laughter)
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 4 (a woman at the microphone): Greetings Tobias. While that started my first question off, I’d like to take it further from there in imagining the way you want things to be. I’ve just had such a struggle with actually creating them the way that I want them to be. And I’d also like to ask about my father.
SHAUMBRA 4: It was two years ago.
SHAUMBRA 4: We need a Shaumbra Directory! (laughter)[/i]
SHAUMBRA 4: Thank you.
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 5 (from the Internet, read by Linda): Tobias any comments about so many Shaumbra gaining large amounts of weight recently. (laughter)
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 6 (a woman at the microphone): Hi Tobias. Since there was no pressing questions in line, I wanted to say: as promised, this past month was brutal. And I wanted to take the opportunity to thank all of you on that side for the immense support and presence and tangible help that was there so noticeably and close, because it was quite a month. And also I want to say, you know, what’s coming up? (some laughter, Tobias chuckling) We made it through this one ... but most of all thank you. It was very real and don’t know how we could have done it without you there.
SHAUMBRA 6: I noticed that a lot of people around me, and myself included, experienced very deep, like explosive divisive experiences with Old Earth, whether it was with parents or other things, and it was incredibly helpful to get the explanation of what that was about, because up to that point that was incredibly painful. So thank you.
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THE TOBIAS MATERIALS
The Clarity Series: "SHOUD 9" - Featuring Tobias, channeled by Geoffrey Hoppe
Questions and Answers
Presented to the Crimson Circle
April 1, 2006[/b]
www.crimsoncircle.com
And so it is, dear Shaumbra, that we continue the energy of this gathering of the New Energy, the New Energy classroom, you the New Energy Shaumbra physicists.
We want to add a few notes to the Shoud today. First, about these Destiny Seeds that we discussed. They were put there by you as a way of keeping you from getting trapped in your own creations. They were put there by you to assure that you would move or change the energy. It was like a type of failsafe system. It was a type of security network that you put into place to make sure that you would continue moving or evolving in this lifetime.
But now... now that you have gone through so many changes, now that your entire energy has been accelerated, now that you have cleared so much from the past and now that you realize that you don’t have to get trapped in your own creations... it is very appropriate to deactivate or totally release these Destiny Seeds.
You don’t have to spend days or months of time working at this. We created an energy today in this Shoud, an energy for Shaumbra, so that they could be released right away. These Destiny Seeds are just a form of consciousness, a form of... a type of Point of Separation, and they can be released very easily. Some of them have been energetically embedded into your physical body, into certain organs in your body, but they can be released as easily as what we have done today. A little bit of breathing, permission, allowing yourself to change - and they go away.
We could see that even at the end of the Shoud that some of you are concerned that you didn’t get them all, that they’re stuck. (Some laughter) We want to assure you that they can go away very easily. We want to assure you that you don’t need to worry about them and if you find yourself worrying or in fear, just once again, take that breath, let those Destiny Seeds be deactivated or completely released from your reality base. Let them go. They’re not going to come back either. They’re not going to come back. Some of you worry about “What if your energy hasn’t changed sufficiently, will they come back?” There’s no need for them now.
We also wanted to mention briefly about the Old Earth and the New Earth choosing not to meld at this time. How does that effect what you’re doing? How does that effect the ones you love who are going to remain in the Old Energy Earth?
First of all, from your standpoint, it’s going to actually allow you to move faster or at least less encumbered, less held back. It’s going to allow your expansion and evolution to come more gracefully and in - what you would call - a shorter time period. Therefore, if you have gone through your integration into the New Energy that much smoother and quicker, think perhaps for a moment or feel how you can be a more effective teacher and guide and helper for those others who’ve chosen to remain back. You can come back to them as a teacher, as an example, in a much clearer way than ever before. You can be a better human guide for them when they choose to make their transition into New Energy as well.
So, in spite of it appearing that this is bad news or negative news, it actually has many, many built in benefits to it. And while this whole feeling of separation will continue for a time, understand that they are choosing it, you are choosing it, and honor the appropriateness of all of that.
And with that we would be delighted to take your questions.
LINDA: Thank you. This is related to disconnection I guess.
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 1 (from the Internet, read by Linda): Hello. I’m sorry but I do not understand the reasons that the traditional family must be broken. My wife, who was an avid follower of Tobias, has left - not only me but her children as well. I’m an open, spiritual person who does not mistreat, abuse, berate or not supportive to my wife. I am much the opposite. I am supportive, don’t drink, don’t cheat, don’t hold my wife back from what she wants, support her every need and allow her the freedom to be herself.
However, after attending the sexual healing workshop and DreamWalker workshop, which we did not have the money to spare but I supported her going anyway, my wife now rejects anything to do with this family, her children and myself. If she rejects me that’s her choice, but why the children? We have two boys, 6 and 10 years of age, that need their mother to be involved in their lives. She now says that after attending the workshops, our love is no longer real and it is just an old belief system, as is “family” is just an old belief system. Do you feel this is appropriate? Have your Shouds been misinterpreted? Can you explain to me why my wife has rejected everything to do with this family? Please try to explain.
TOBIAS: Indeed. Excellent question and it brings up so many issues for you who are asking the question, for your family, for all of Shaumbra. What happens when you do disconnect? What happens when you let go? Do you need to do it in the method that you described here? Does Shaumbra have to actually walk out and leave their families? That is a case by case situation. It would be very difficult for us to give a general answer.
Sometimes one or more of the people in that family network feel it is appropriate to completely disengage - not because of lack of love, not because they are selfish, not because they resent or reject the old way - but they realize that they must step out for a moment. They must break some of the Old Energy dynamics that were taking place.
Now, you say in your question here that you do not do all of these terrible things, which is apparently true. But yet there were some very Old Energy games that were going on, if you would be so honest with yourself to take a look. We’re not passing judgment but we are saying, perhaps in this case, that one of the members... your wife, one of the members of this family... had an inner wisdom that knew she must break the old cycle - even if it meant walking out. It broke the old patterns that were occurring between all of you in this family network.
You say that perhaps you feel that she doesn’t love you anymore, she doesn’t love the children, but we’re going to ask you to take a look at this. Perhaps the love is so great and so strong that she wanted to break some of the old games that were being played. Perhaps she did this in the highest form of love, since we have a case here today – the Old Earth and the New Earth – NOT coming together right now. Perhaps it was the Old Earth loving the potential of the New Earth so much it said “I will hold you back.” Now THAT is love. That is compassion.
We want you to look at it, not from the standpoint of being a victim in this whole game, but of the appropriateness of the potential and what can be recreated new if, when, she comes back to the family. What can be recreated within the family for the benefit of everyone – the children, yourself.
You know that the energy was getting low because you also know the finances were getting low, and you blame it on many different things, but take a look. There was a stuck energy in the family, and it was manifesting itself in things like sicknesses with all of you, imbalances in the physical system, imbalances in the financial and everything else.
So perhaps, just perhaps, you could take a look at her and realize that she did one of the most difficult, one of the most challenging, and one of things that perhaps could hurt her the most is having the courage to walk out, to break the old dynamics so that now all of you can recreate your family in a new way, if you choose. Thank you.
LINDA: Thank you.
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 2 (a woman at the microphone): Tobias, my daughter is going through somewhat suffering. Is there anything you can suggest or a message for her?
TOBIAS: It is a very, very difficult situation when a human chooses to go through the suffering. It is very difficult. And the first thing is to understand that they are creating it and as hard as that sounds, you have to realize that they are doing it for a reason. As the mother it breaks your heart, it brings tears to your eyes to see any Being, but particularly a loved one, one you have birthed into this world, going through such difficulty.
And yes there is something you can do. You can literally – and we’re going to tell you to keep this very simple – you can literally hold her hand, breathe with her, and in your own words find a way to say “You don’t need to suffer to get there. You don’t need to suffer for karma – you can let go of karma at any time. It’s your choice. It’s your divine choice. You’re not locked in this or trapped in this. You don’t need some sort of miracle medication. You don’t need to have some sort of dramatic - what you would call - outside healing. You can choose right here and right now to let it go. But you have to be honest with yourself. Can you let go of the suffering?” Now you have to say it, by the way, to her. You have to explain it in YOUR words, in YOUR terms – something that makes sense.
But she was holding onto an old, old pattern – what you would call karma – inflicting it on herself and part of her is going to deny that she is doing it, because she is trying to figure out or design a way to stay in that suffering. She doesn’t have to be there. None of you have to suffer – physically, emotionally, financially or any other way. She can make a choice to let that go.
Now, the hard part for you, the difficult and challenging part, is to honor her for that choice - no matter what. No matter what. Her choice may be to NOT make any choice right now. It may be to contemplate it for a while. The hard part is going to be for you to honor it. Now obviously, it would be lovely if she chooses to release this suffering energy - and to release it quickly, by the way. The hard part is going to be if she chooses to keep it. We’re going to ask you to honor it no matter what. That is the greatest challenge of compassion.
And we’re going to ask you one other thing. You’ve taken on many of these energetic attributes yourself. You’re carrying much of the energy baggage with you now. You think that is actually helping your daughter and it is not. It is not doing her one bit of good. It is not giving you greater empathy or understanding or wisdom, and you have not relieved one bit of her suffering. So we’re going to ask you to take that energy that you have taken on, her suffering, and let it go, even if it goes back to her. It doesn’t work well with you. You’re not actually helping her, and as a matter of fact, you’re becoming less of a teacher and less of an example to her by taking it on. So we’re going to challenge you with that. Thank you.
SHAUMBRA 2: Thank you.
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 3 (from the Internet, read by Linda): Tobias, in my humble, human understanding of stepping out of mass consciousness, I have let my car registration expire, have no health or car insurance and did not file taxes for last year as I believe these are all examples of the hypnotic overlays that confine us. I’ve recently received notice from the IRS that they would like me to file my return and they’ve added a rather large fine! (laughter) How can we truly leave mass consciousness behind if the local, state and federal governments have all these systems in place to track us in? Am I missing the point? (more laughter)
TOBIAS: (Chuckling). Indeed, not at all, not missing the point at all. However, however, you are still – you and so many other Shaumbra – you’re still so embedded with old belief systems and overlays and fears... you’re still interconnected to so many old networks... you’re still operating in the 3 D world from an old sense of duality... that now you find yourself fighting the very systems that you’re actually a part of.
We’re going to say this: First, disconnect from all of these old things first, before you go out and attempt to fight the system, because right now the system is very strong. Right now – how to say – you’re fighting duality from within it. Allow yourself to fully disconnect and ascend and then you’re going to find out that, in a way, the system doesn’t even see you anymore. Right now they see you! Their energy is focused on you. You are very obvious to them.
Go ahead and take care of these - what I would call - incidental things, so that you can focus your energy on this process right now of disconnecting from Old and activating your essence, because right now it’s going to be very difficult for you to do this work if you’re so tied up in these rather mundane things. All of you are going to find out, after you let go of old consciousness and overlays and old networks, that the system doesn’t even see you. You don’t have to “not” pay your taxes - they’re not going to know that you should be paying your taxes in the first place. Thank you.
LINDA: Mine – I think I stand out like a sore thumb! (some laughter)
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 4 (a woman at the microphone): Greetings Tobias. While that started my first question off, I’d like to take it further from there in imagining the way you want things to be. I’ve just had such a struggle with actually creating them the way that I want them to be. And I’d also like to ask about my father.
TOBIAS: Indeed. In terms of creating them the way you want them to be, we’re going to be getting into more of that in the next Shoud. We’re going to be working with some actual tools, so don’t race ahead here, if you would. Let us work right now on disconnecting first. It is very difficult to work with some of these New Energy tools if, once again, you’re still connected to an Old Energy world.
In terms of your father ... we have to do a bit of checking here ... we don’t always ...
SHAUMBRA 4: It was two years ago.
TOBIAS: Indeed, yes, it was quite a while actually. We don’t always have this information directly on hand. You think that we’re pretty smart but not about everything!
SHAUMBRA 4: We need a Shaumbra Directory! (laughter)[/i]
TOBIAS: (chuckling) We see... we’re being told that this dear one is already back here on Earth incarnated. You have not met him in the incarnation but will most likely do so.
SHAUMBRA 4: Thank you.
TOBIAS: And not living in the same geographic area right now as you.
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 5 (from the Internet, read by Linda): Tobias any comments about so many Shaumbra gaining large amounts of weight recently. (laughter)
TOBIAS: There is also as many Shaumbra losing weight right now! We’re going to ask all of you not to focus on things like weight. The body has it own network, it’s own way of handling energy. And, in a sense, when we were saying in the Shoud today that “Let everything come natural,” when you start interfering with things like worrying excessively about your weight, it tends to inhibit the natural process that is taking place. You’re going to find weight fluctuations just like you find sleep fluctuations and everything else.
There are certain expectations that you have, which are in themselves overlays or consciousness networks, about weight and body and even your doctors tell you that too much weight is wrong. But as we said, science right now – the facts of science – are not always true. Your body knows exactly what to do. Your body knows how much weight and energy it needs stored – stored in this level and the other levels. The body is going to balance itself. Particularly when you stop worrying so much about it, it’s not going to feel the need to carry all that weight. But please, also let go of the concept of what the proper weight is, there are more important things that you have to do in this lifetime. And perhaps some other people might consider you’re a bit pudgy (laughter), but I personally prefer a well rounded human (much laughter, Tobias chuckling).
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 6 (a woman at the microphone): Hi Tobias. Since there was no pressing questions in line, I wanted to say: as promised, this past month was brutal. And I wanted to take the opportunity to thank all of you on that side for the immense support and presence and tangible help that was there so noticeably and close, because it was quite a month. And also I want to say, you know, what’s coming up? (some laughter, Tobias chuckling) We made it through this one ... but most of all thank you. It was very real and don’t know how we could have done it without you there.
TOBIAS: We appreciate that but we were going to ask you here to take a look at the real energy behind it. Obviously, we are here. We love working with you and supporting you and all of Shaumbra, but what you were really tapping into this past month was your essence. We were there, helping to facilitate some movements of energy, but more than anything you found yourself in a situation – not quite desperation, but on the same road as desperation – of finding that you had to go outside of conventional ways of getting answers and bringing in energy. So you were truly letting go or disconnecting at one level, reconnecting with yourself or your essence at the other. So you should be giving thanks to yourself first and then we’ll accept the thanks for us.
It has been a difficult month because you are quite sensitive and Shaumbra in general is quite sensitive. You were feeling this whole, very thick and very heavy energy on Earth right now and so many of you take it on as your own. You take it on as your own issue. We keep encouraging you to understand that it’s not about you. You are just feeling this Old Energy Earth and New Energy Earth deciding to postpone the marriage for a while.
SHAUMBRA 6: I noticed that a lot of people around me, and myself included, experienced very deep, like explosive divisive experiences with Old Earth, whether it was with parents or other things, and it was incredibly helpful to get the explanation of what that was about, because up to that point that was incredibly painful. So thank you.
TOBIAS: It's a good opportunity to remind Shaumbra, once again – again and again – it’s truly not about you. You are feeling things that are taking place on Earth, sometimes you’re feeling past life aspects, sometimes you are feeling new energies rolling in. You pretend – not just you, dear, but Shaumbra in general – you pretend that it’s about you. You pretend that you created some sort of difficulty in your lives, but you’re really just feeling other people’s energy and the energy of mass consciousness in all. If you allow yourself to not let that inhibit you or affect your own life, you’re going to be a much better and wiser teacher to the others. Thank you.
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