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Post by ADMIN on Aug 13, 2004 22:24:03 GMT -5
Hiya mike! yes, I agree that this post should be in "Emotional Clearing" This is not a vent. Will move it , hey don't be sad, be happy...we are getting closer to being beings in control our ownself!!!!!
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Post by seaoffeeling on Aug 13, 2004 23:03:55 GMT -5
[glow=red,2,300]Hi Orancia, I hear and agree with you! I like Sowelu's suggestion on how to put together the material from Jansett to post on the general board. You have a valuable contribution to make, and I hope you will continue to share. Love, -SeaofFeeling[/glow]
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Post by Nicole on Aug 15, 2004 17:01:25 GMT -5
Orancia,
I have known you for a while Orancia and your last post (in this thread) was one of the few times I have ever heard you truly express your pain and not cover it up with a complaint about someone else. I'm not telling you this to make you mad - I am telling you this because I think it is wonderful. You're taking an awesome step here and I applaud you for being so open! Bravo Mark!!!
You've been in pain for a long time, and it's ok to let it go now ya know? If you're willing to do it then I'm willing to cheer you on. Just wanted you to know that.
Love, Nicole
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Post by saber on Aug 15, 2004 18:35:31 GMT -5
Closure. That is what I am hearing is needed here Orancia.
It is sometimes impossible to find closure with the person who has hurt you. It seems your hurt stems from before the incident where Jelaila threatened to sue you. It seems you might have unmet expectations that have caused you to be disillusioned regarding Jelaila.
The 'theys' of the world have always said we teach what we need to learn. Well, Jelaila teaches about compassion because she still needs to learn about it. And she teaches about various forms and levels of emotional healing because she still needs to learn to heal herself.
Many of us have encountered her in one way or another in this life time and had unrealistic and unmet expectations of her that have brought about feelings of rejection and loss, shame, sorrow, hurt and down right hatred and betrayal.
She has chosen to throw people away; delete them from her council and her website; discard them from her circle. This is the only way she is able to deal with her own pain. She has not yet achieved that which she teaches.
So what to do? The only thing you can do is to deal wlth your feeings, process through them and find closure within yourself. You will not find closure with her outwardly at this time because she is unwilling and unable to do so herself.
Finding personal closure to these kinds of big issues is a big lesson and one that reflects mastery of the self and of one's self expression of one's feelings and control over one's thoughts.
It does not require that you stuff and supress those feelings and thoughts, rather release them and find the freedom within yourself to allow YOU to heal.
This is the appropriate board on which to do that.
Saber
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Post by AgeA on Aug 15, 2004 20:12:17 GMT -5
Hi Saber! You are so right when you say: "It seems your hurt stems from before the incident where Jelaila threatened to sue you. It seems you might have unmet expectations that have caused you to be disillusioned regarding Jelaila." Yes I have been disillusioned pretty much since I went to workshop in June. It didnt turn to be what I thought it would and neither my experience with the NC.
Saber who are you? Are you former NC member? How come I feel like I know you?
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Post by saber on Aug 16, 2004 11:04:09 GMT -5
I am not a former member of NC nor have I ever been connected to the NC except through what I have heard and read. And I don't believe we know each other unless from another life. :-)
Saber
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