The truth

[antiilluminati]

We experience time as linear.
think hard on everything that has happened to you and you may have a feeling it was always going to happened. Like a sense of dejavo. Or if you think hard about another person you may feel a sense of duality.

It seems every choice that is to be made by you, was always the choice that you would have picked. The outcome always how it was going to be. Life is rigged. You indeed have free choice. But the choice you make is set in concrete. How can this be? because cause and effect depend on your circumstances and your being. The events and conditions emotions ect all are unfolding the way it has always being designed. there is nothing new understand the sun.

You are merely in a dimension of perspective which does not allow you to see the full picture. Your day to day events have already happened. You are moving through it in a linear fashion....you carry the illusion that the future is yet to come. It has already happened. You are yet to experience it according to your current memory. But in any case it is all one thing. present past and future set in stone according to your free will. this is a paradox.
all feelings including negativity are nothing bad, but are judged by others as bad or good. Everything is your choice to judge.
If you decide to drop a pen. You were always going to drop that pen no matter what.

If you decide not to drop it. You were always not going to drop it.
this is because You cannot both drop the pen and not drop it. You have to make a decision. one way or the other. Your decision is based on free will which in return is cause and effect. This means your free will has already made the decision before you make it.
Before I wrote this post it was already written. This is the design.
You are now talking and thinking interacting with only yourself. creating the illusion of relationship. Imagining that you are seperate from everyone.

Your personal filter may block portions of this out if you are not meant to understand this. you will cause yourself not to.
This post in an opinion. Because you can never know for sure in the context of your life. What the Ultimate reality is. you can only speculate. This I have come to know is a reasonable speculation based on what I have reasoned.....

Every event is rigged acording to your free will. The whole design may not be revealed. But it is all known there is nothing new.
you could argue about personal growth and spiritual maturity.
This is another issue. Which I'm not going into right now....
many of you in my opinion are off in fairy land.
You say welcome to the our world. But your world is your own fantasy. And it leads to nothing that anyone else's beliefs don't lead to. Earth council has no special answers or extra knowledge that any of us have.

No-one on earth council is more special than anyone else because they are in the 'Inner circle'. This is the kind of mentality I find here. It is just a group of friends of like mind people socializing on the net.

Every truth is an opinion because you can never see truth objectively it is all YOUR interpretation. You cannot say that everything you believe is actually true, it is only what you believe. It may not be Ultimate truth.

This post can not claim to be truth but it is as close as I can get to it. It is still only an opinion. In return everyone elses view here is also only an opinion.

To make claims up about acension and spiritual missions and claiming superior knowledge and other things is your choice.

[ADMIN]

Well Starseed,
I am very happy and proud to belong to this group here Earth Council where we gather.

No-one on earth council is more special than anyone else because they are in the 'Inner circle'. This is the kind of mentality I find here. It is just a group of friends of like mind people socializing on the net.

You see there is in every path of enlightement different approaches in seeking . Maybe you are of thy special ones who don't need support and who feels that others are wasting time by indulging in their fantasy ideas. But, you know what...those who think they know it all and think that everyone around them are in LA La land and inferior, well, I really don't desire to socialize with this kind of presona.
I rather mingle with the humble and not so stuck -up who think they have all the answers to what is going on.
it seems that you get pleasure from this, from making or trying to make others feel like they are wasting their time and are inferiro to their views and beliefs/
You know what? No one is wasting their time, they are on track to what they agreed to, each learning according to the pace they chose.
I am very happy for you that you are so advanced.
Now I ask you, if we are here in La La land, this would be the least place for you, being that you act and come across as being so advanced and knowledgable!
if I had your qualities I would be teaching the world and attracting the same like minds as yours!, Not wasting time with the ones here.
I still don't understand this, but as you said this has already been written I am just redesigning! ;D
I think you should really honor your board name " starseed" and come here and show us " if you have the qualities" what a Starseed is all about./
in summary, as a young heart that you are I get the feeling that you are lacking attention and need to stir attention thru controversy.
Oh! you can take your ultimate truth somewhere else where like minds would welcome and understand it better then here, cause we are just socializing as you said!
Bon Voyage!
Hasta la vista baby!!!!

[whitequeen]

You know what Stirseed, you are an asshole. I gotta say you never give up do you? Just gotta come into a circle of people who you do not understand and place your expectations on us.

Well, I am sorry we have disappointed you but I for one will not be drawn into your need for controversy. Like Mira says, we are a bunch of friends communig on the internet, to echo your bs. So be it. A little different from others but friends who love each other and usually welcome all here.

You are obviously either jealous or feeling left out and need to stir up shit to feel like you can hold your ground. Why don't you go somewhere else where your foolish, childish stuff is welcome.

WhiteQueen

[whitequeen]

Oh and by the way, what I said a minute ago was preconceived and had already been said. I was just parroting myself because I had already said it and I'm too far into Lala land to have enough of a brain to think it up.

[Lunaria]

So what is your point, starseed?

Why do you continue to attack us?
If you don't like it here, why are you here?

We are about serious ascension.
It seems all you are about is attacking.

I will not try to convince you of anything because I see you are not ready to be serious.
If you think we are in fairy land then why don't you move on?

Be well on you journey.

[ADMIN]

[glow=purple,2,300]WhiteQueen,
I could have not said it better!
It's funny that all those who think they are far ahead, spiritual proudness, are the last in the line when test time comes!!!!! But!!!!! They will also have their rewards.... as those who stand in the corners and preach.....
[/glow]

[Sowelu]

There is a process of growth many of us have experienced, which often begins with the mind. Limited though the human mind is initially, filtered as it is by what lies in the emotional body until cleared, it IS a tool we all used for most of our learning until a certain point. Until we yielded to the wisdom in our HEART.

What I see here in Starseed is someone currently in a phase of growth that uses the mind as the primary KNOWER, the authority on What Is. Not yet recognizing the inherent limitations in the human mind that prevent expanded sight until those limitations are removed.

The human mind does not and cannot recognize the heart as a true authority until it learns to. And that takes quite a bit of time, effort and intent, as many of us are aware.

So, imo, Starseed is in a process. He's become enamored with the cleverness his mind comes up with to explain so much about his experience of life. It makes so much sense to him for the moment! I've been there, haven't you?





This community represents something to Starseed, then, and for him we "are" what he perceives us to be. We represent the "not mind/not aware/not logical/not real" that knows nothing. Because for him, this is true. It must be for now, because he's "sided" with the mind. Until his own heart awakens (should that happen) and he yields to a greater authority.

At the moment, he's fighting that authority. He shows evidence in his writing of resenting his status of "non-member" in the community of those who recognize the heart as the authority on truth. His status is his own choice, and he's defending it by pitting the heart against his own mind. His writing reveals that he so far seems to want his mind, "the" mind, to be the authority over the heart. So be it.

Another's perception of you is real for them. Reacting to it makes their perception of you real for you.

Just an observation from my vantage point at the moment. Take or toss or twist or thwart, or do what you will with it, as you see fit.

With love,
Sowelu

[antiilluminati]

I clearly said this is my opinion.....and I have named it the truth because to me it is.

no one is above or below. that is an illusion.
What is knowledge/wisdon? this is a judgment in itself.

It is your choice to judge what I have said.

In return it is my choice to judge what you have said to me.

I am here because I want to be here. Why?
I think It would be better off to see different perspectives. So I am offering a different perspective. To all the new people who come here.....Because different views are welcome here.

I am not attacking anyone. So lets get that clear.....

If I think some people are in la la land. That is my problem and my opinion. If you have issues with me. that is your problem and your opinion.

Call me names. Carry on. It makes no difference.

I still have a right to say what I want to say. Sorry if you feel frustrated at my free speach.

Any conflict that results is your choice.

It is not my job to live up to your idea of what a starseed is.....
It is up to me to be myself......

[Sowelu]

Well said and bravo, Starseed!


(If you don't mind my saying so.)

[antiilluminati]

Thank you sowelu, and thanks for the response. That is your interpretation of where I am at, from what I have said.

I do not agree with your claims about me siding with a certain aspect of myself. The way I see it. You have implied that you have already had my perspective before and moved beyond it. To say you have been where I am now, creates the impression what you say is more valid and what I say stems from a lack of what you already have.

[Sowelu]

Naturally! That's all I have, you know? My interpretation. Same as you. And for certain I'm still a work in progress, so it may change, as I do.

It's all good.

With love,
Sowelu

[bluerose]

[glow=blue,2,300]Hi Starseed,

I agree with you that each of us is living our own experience neither of which is better or worse than anyone else's and I would assume that most of us believe this here in EC.

However, I don't see any of us judging each other or their knowledge or experiences as better or worse than any others.

Ya know, one thing a few of us believe here is that when we personally see something we don't like, for example judgement, it is a mirror of something within us. So, perhaps there is a part of you that judges things? Maybe not, it's just an idea.

Anyway, I'm glad you shared your feelings with us, and I personally support you in working with them. I mean, what better way to grow and experience more things than to work directly with the emotions that let us experence them!

And for those of you triggered by this post, same goes. I'm glad you all shared your feelings as well and in my opinion, there is a judgement mirror going on here. And I support everyone in working through their issues, as so many of you have supported me in working through mine so far![/glow]

[bluerose]

[glow=blue,2,300]Hey Starseed, did you see that movie, "What The Bleep Do We know?" I just saw it Friday night and it was pretty interesting. Anyway, this thread kind of reminded me of the ideas in it. [/glow]

[antiilluminati]

I have not seen that movie.

however I have noticed the influence that movies do have on the masses and I believe that this influence is taken advantage of.

not saying movies are bad I love them.
Certain movies are used for propargana purposes though.

I have to go see that movie now. lol.

[bluerose]

[glow=blue,2,300]Well, the movie had absolutely no advertising and only opened in a select few cities, supposedly.

It opened in only ONE of our many theaters in the city and it was way out of the way for most people to go see it at this theater - I actually had to drive 45 minutes to get to it. In fact, there were only at most 20 people in the theater on opening night! I was sure it would be sold out and lines to get in.

I was expecting it to be more like a movie, but it ended up being kind of like something you'd watch on the Discovery channel, or a Dateline special on tv or something. LOL It was interesting nonetheless. Nothing controversial in my opinion, but apparently too controversial to open in the far majority of theaters in the US.

Here's a website for it too, in case you're interested.[/glow] www.whatthebleep.com/