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Post by knowthis on Jul 18, 2005 12:02:48 GMT -5
The other night I fell asleep while meditating and in a real positive frame of mind. What occurred next I never expected at all and I actually thought I was about to have a heart attack or even worse, die. I was shockingly awoken from a deep sleep by a jarring spell of extreme hot flashes I guess you could call it? It felt like a head rush, as if either all of my blood was rushing to my head, or instead, leaving it all at once. My nervous system seemed to partially stop working momentarily and I at first couldn't even stand up due to dizziness and had difficulty moving my left arm as well. I've read that these kinds of symptoms can preclude a heart attack but as far as I know I'm young, healthy and not a candidate for such so it didn't seem to make sense. This worst of it only lasted for about a minute or two and then it would dissipate, only to return again but to a lesser degree and so forth until it finally went away all together after about twenty minutes of rhythmic intervals winding back down to the normal state. During that time I felt light-headed and walked clumsily as if I were drunk. I also seem to recall having difficulty concentrating. The experience was also accompanied by heavy sweating and I don't usually sweat much either, even under rigorous activity. I guess my question is, how does one differentiate between symptoms of natural body changes due to ascension and actual real life health concerns that should be addressed medically? The focus of my meditation was of love, self-empowerment, but most of all of healing. That's why I was so surprised to have what felt like such an unhealthy experience. I've also had other experiences where I've felt an electrical-like pop in my forehead right between my eyes leaving my body tingling for some time after. I've also had more pleasant experiences like a calming, lightly vibrating sensation in the form of an invisible ring just above my eyes, encircling my entire head. None of these incidents however frightened me in the manner in which the latest one did. And one more final thing, the next day while awake I felt what I thought was the onset of another bout of these "hot flashes"(what I choose to call them anyway). This time though I was relived that it seemed to go away just as quickly as it came. I hope that I don't have some sort of nervous system disorder because my grandmother had Parkinson's disease before she died. I've always had unsteady hands. I worry that this could happen while I'm in the shower or driving which could be potentially fatal. I also worry that I may just literally die from the phenomenon itself. I haven't been to a doctor in years, what should I do? I might also add that I've felt as good as ever since the incident. Hopefully I'm not being pre-mature of another future episode? Has anyone else had similar experiences? It would comfort me very much to hear of some and how you've dealt with them or what you think that they might mean. Thanks for "listening"! The worst part about it is that if I were to go to the doctor's and this was just the nature of my natural body changes I would merely be misdiagnosed and led down the wrong path while just wasting my money on irrelevant tests.
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Post by liza on Jul 18, 2005 12:54:07 GMT -5
I'm sure others will have good insight on this experience, knowthis! I have a few thoughts on it, too.. the first thought was to tell you to not be afraid of the experience. The second thought was what if this had your inner child's hand in it? After all, you "asked" for healing. You're clearing stuff in this manner, and that's admirable! I wish I had the discipline to take the time to mediate. I could be wrong, though, about feeling that your inner child was trying to communicating something to you pertaining to the healing you wished for. From a medical/psychological angle, this experience could possibly be classified as a panic attack. It totally feels like having a heart attack, but there's nothing wrong with the heart at all. I have the same thing! It helps me to lie down, and breathe deeply. It's like having my chest compressed.. being in high elevation, and the chest just pops. Just keep on relaxing, and I hope others can give you more insights.. I'm listening! *hint hint* ;D And another thought is that you could be feeling unanchored or having a little OBE, you multdimensional being, you!
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Post by Nicole on Jul 18, 2005 15:28:11 GMT -5
Sounds like kundalini rising - the heat - burning out what's not needed.
It's up to you to determine if you need to see a doctor. If you can get past the fear of the moment you should be able to determine this. Always see a doctor if you feel you need to.
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Post by knowthis on Jul 19, 2005 12:24:30 GMT -5
liza: I sure hope so, that's why I decided to post this here. This site seems to be a fantastic place of congregation for those of like-mindedness. Thank you much for the kind comments! How very sweet of you to say this. The asking is not that hard to do at all. In fact, you just become healed, you command it and you decide how you wish to project yourself in each and every moment of the present NOW, which is all that exists. The universe than responds to your commands. Just remember to be very clear and specific as to what you're asking for. You will, it just takes time, once you get accustomed to it you'll thirst for that kind of spiritual nourishment. This is why it's so important for me to ask these questions at places like this. I end up receiving compelling information (like what you've shared) that I wouldn't have otherwise thought of or came across on my own. Thanks... How very astute of you to make that correlation. How absent-minded of me to forget such an important detail. I too, at an earlier age use to have small panic attacks and I suffered one major anxiety attack that sent me to the hospital. I can't believe that I neglected to mention such an integral detail. Back then, I used to have this fear that I would stop breathing in my sleep. I believe that it's clinically known as Sleep Apnea? When the disorder was at its worst, I would overcompensate for my concern by essentially breathing too much and actually hyperventilating. This is what landed my in the hospital because at he time my mother and I had no idea of what was really going on. This was years ago and I've basically rectified my problem since then, at least I thought I did? Nothing like that has happened again in a long time. Now back to the experience I just had. There was an element of that same kind of anxiety involved but I don't believe that it was the cause of what happened. I didn't start to panic until after I was already having the flashes and I mentally psyched myself out by thinking that I was going to die. Does that make any kind of sense? It's a bit hard to explain. I believe that the mini-panic attack was a symptom of whatever really happened initially. It was just how I chose to respond to it, whatever it was. Hopefully that clarifies somewhat? But again that was an excellent point that you brought up! It shows that you're actually sincerely giving this some careful thought and consideration which I very much appreciate. ;D It shows... Oh yes, I've had those for quite some time now. They're usually accompanied by sleep paralysis, at least when I'm awakened before I've returned to the body. I already feel much better about it.
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Post by knowthis on Jul 19, 2005 12:32:08 GMT -5
Nisroc:Hmmm...burning would certainly be a good description of the sensation. Not in the, "ouch I just touched something hot and burned myself" kind of way but you obviously know what I mean. You know the old adage, "no pain, no gain". Perhaps that applies here? You're right, I should wait until I'm calm enough to allow my true unbiased feelings to give me an accurate read on this. That's the best time to exercise personal discretion. Sometimes you're thoughts (if rooted in fear) will give you information that conflicts with your feelings which are your souls suggestions. Always learn to listen to your soul and learn to tell the subtle difference between the two. Sometimes the two can be easily confused. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
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Post by knowthis on Jul 19, 2005 12:38:44 GMT -5
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Post by sama on Jul 19, 2005 16:43:35 GMT -5
from what i have read of this man, he is the real deal! i have to say also that what i read on the other thread is absolutely brilliant - it makes perfect sense to me. the universe provides us with what we need, doesnt it, but it needs to hear exactly the right words to provide our needs. this is not put clearly, but i know that you will all understand what i am rather ineptly trying to say!
its remarkably like spellcasting really - the precision is so vital.
blessings, sama
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Post by sama on Jul 19, 2005 16:48:11 GMT -5
may i add a little to the original replies to knowthis's post? it sounds to me as if you had a straightforward emotional overload - that your senses were so acute and your state of mind so intense that everything kind of imploded. does that make sense?
of course, if you feel you need to consult the medical profession, then DO IT - dont take risks that are unnecessary. but i honestly feel that this was due to a general over-acuity of the nervous system. we are still fragile beings after all, and the changes that awakening is working in all of us are almost cataclysmic in their effects at times.
blessings, sama
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Post by liza on Jul 20, 2005 5:31:00 GMT -5
may i add a little to the original replies to knowthis's post? it sounds to me as if you had a straightforward emotional overload - that your senses were so acute and your state of mind so intense that everything kind of imploded. does that make sense? of course, if you feel you need to consult the medical profession, then DO IT - dont take risks that are unnecessary. but i honestly feel that this was due to a general over-acuity of the nervous system. we are still fragile beings after all, and the changes that awakening is working in all of us are almost cataclysmic in their effects at times. blessings, sama Interesting insight, sama! Thanks for making it. When I have my panic attack, I feel like I'm feeling overwhelmed and my first instinct is to lower the intensity of what I was feeling or doing at that moment. This leads me to feeling emotions and doing things in moderation. My inner child doesn't want me to feel too much of these things for a reason, so that's why I worded my insight the way I did to knowthis. Knowthis, I'm glad to have been of service. I'm glad you feel better about this! I just have a feeling somebody is trying to get through to you in this manner. Could be the inner child or... some one else, but the IC stops that person or entity. *goosebumps* Then again, I could be wrong
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Post by liza on Jul 20, 2005 5:39:28 GMT -5
It seems to me that Walsch provides the much needed spiritual guidance without conditions like some, and people do not seem to "worship" him as much as others would do with some messengers of God or Allah or Murduk or whoever .. I do not feel troubled by him like I would by some channelers. Do you? What do your gut feeling tell ya about him? I must confess that I havent read his work, only skimmed on some parts on the internet. I will get his books one day. About Gregg Braden: I feel that he's real about what he talks about... having read one of his books - walking between the worlds. I loved that book!
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Post by Nicole on Jul 20, 2005 8:53:49 GMT -5
I have never been drawn to Walsch personally, but I know many that I both love and respect that like him and have gained from his work. Everyone is drawn to something different, so if this pings for you then you're definitely meant to get something out of it!
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Post by knowthis on Jul 20, 2005 22:50:05 GMT -5
Thanks so much for the great input everyone! ;D I'm so excited to share the following information that I found that seems to explain exactly what happened to me nearly verbatim. I hope that this may serve others dealing with similar happenings? It even addresses the medical concerns and how misdiagnosis often occurs as this new process is not yet understood in the area of health services. Here are a few things that fit right in to my experience. If this information vibes with you, click the link because there's much more. I just parsed that which seemed most relevant to me. I've underlined and/or highlighted the passages that really related to my experience. www.blazing-trails.com/LightWorkers/AscensionAdjSym.html#ASCENSION ADJUSTMENT SYNDROMEAgain, thanks much everyone for lending an ear, or should I say typing finger?
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