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Post by ADMIN on Mar 9, 2005 16:30:42 GMT -5
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Post by promiseddreams on Mar 12, 2005 20:29:00 GMT -5
I have to admit that the cost had my red flags up. I try to remind myself that anything I need can be found within.
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Post by liza on Jun 16, 2005 20:04:34 GMT -5
I have to admit that the cost had my red flags up. I try to remind myself that anything I need can be found within. You're right, dreams, you can pretty much find stuff within and from anywhere else you are guided to.  No worries. I don't think you're missing much by not participating in any pricey workshop or anything like that. Though I think the booklets are pretty valuable where the psychological side or therapeutic side is concerned. Wow, old stuff revisited. Looking back, I do feel that there were some elements of control beyond the norm. Reading the article makes me want to eat crow in some ways, because I totally bought into some of the unhealthy stuff; how things should be done and so so. As a result I totally believed I was powerless. I don't know if it was a direct result from Jelaila's actions and sayings.. and all.. but the vibes and feelings were just wrong from all sides, looking back. It was also my fault in a huge way. Pretty much a slippery slope to be on. I guess beliefs and will can be powerful enough to override one's good senses. LOL! C'est la vie. Moving along. Back to those ol' psychic fairs and metaphysical shops the old fashioned way! *giggle* |
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Post by Edward on Jun 16, 2005 20:39:24 GMT -5
Yes I have read this article. This was brought up to me by my "friends" that were not on the same journey at the time I was. They knew I started at the NC website and really didn't understand what was going on. They through this in my face to try to help me out (in there mind) and to tell me it's all fraud and all brainwashing. I have had issues with the charging of "x" amount of money to provide a service. It's been one thing I've been dealing with for a long time. It still bugs me a little bit til this day. I feel that these things should not be charge for. But I do recogonize the right of the individual to do what they want but I'm just uncomfortable a little bit about paying for services that is here to help and enlighten us on our journey. It's was connected to one of my issues with money and why I have such an adverse affect to money in certain situations. But like I said, it still may slightly bug me but I respect and accept anyone's choice to charge what ever they want for the services that they intend to provide. Peace, Love and Enlightenment, Ed |
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Post by liza on Jun 16, 2005 20:49:14 GMT -5
Yes I have read this article. This was brought up to me by my "friends" that were not on the same journey at the time I was. They knew I started at the NC website and really didn't understand what was going on. They through this in my face to try to help me out (in there mind) and to tell me it's all fraud and all brainwashing. I have had issues with the charging of "x" amount of money to provide a service. It's been one thing I've been dealing with for a long time. It still bugs me a little bit til this day. I feel that these things should not be charge for. But I do recogonize the right of the individual to do what they want but I'm just uncomfortable a little bit about paying for services that is here to help and enlighten us on our journey. It's was connected to one of my issues with money and why I have such an adverse affect to money in certain situations. But like I said, it still may slightly bug me but I respect and accept anyone's choice to charge what ever they want for the services that they intend to provide. Peace, Love and Enlightenment, Ed That's a nice thought, Ed. It has been a question about setting value on how much you are "worth it" (setting price on service or product, etc). It is also another question of determining if the money is worth the service from the customer's side depending on how much the product or service is valued by that customer. It is then a completely different question of how you feel the person providing that service is acting within your personal space or whatever it is. Honorable intentions, enlightenment, and the whole shebang.. who knows?  I believe there's always a gem in every lesson, good or bad. |
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Post by penndragon on Jun 28, 2005 21:36:49 GMT -5
Service is our destiny. In helping one another, we reap the benefits of "Christ consciencenous" which take us to new levels. If what they charge offends someone, they in turn will reap an offense against them.
Service is our destiny.
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Post by Nicole on Jul 3, 2005 10:47:35 GMT -5
LOL
Well, I have to agree largely and disagree in some areas too. Funny I didn't see this the other day - weird actually especially since Jelaila popped into my thoughts last night.
The single most valuable tool that I have used in my emotional clearing journey was the Keys of Compassion. For whatever reason they resonated, I understood them, and they were easy to use. I still recommend them as you all know.
I also got the education of a lifetime doing the Galactic Counselor training and being a part of the GCN. That's not to say that it's thanks to Jelaila's teachings, etc., which I'll address in a moment.
Liza mentioned eating crow...hehehe...well, yes and no for me. I am so far past where Jelaila was trying to take me now that it's a little comical to me now looking back. However, the experience itself has proved invaluable because it allowed me to grow in leaps and bounds - after painful lessons that is. But that's how we do it on the fast track to clearing right? It's all good with me now, but I do think that she's taken what Devin and company have given her and perverted it into money making. The NC upstairs has told me personally that she's out of control and in ego. So why is she still here? I don't know. I've gotten bits of it via feeling but nothing I can put into words.
Anyway, I have taken all that was given to me via the NC and either removed it from my point of view (and website) or reworked it to what I believe is truth at this point and time.
And I know if Jelaila is reading this, which she probably is as a guest if it's visible or someone will send it to her - Jelaila, you were out of integrity so many times dear heart and still are I assume, bless you because you taught me to stand up for my own. And I tried to talk with you but you stopped returning emails from me when all I wanted to do is say hello. So bless you, but don't even think you'll tell people I'm bitter or something - don't go there. If you want to talk, you can always email me.
So that said, I do charge for my own sessions. I just upped it to $125 and I'll tell you why. It takes A LOT OF ENERGY to do a session. It literally drains me most of the time. To the point where if I even do 2 a day I am out for the rest of the day. So that's what my time, and energy, is worth. And my sessions are an hour, but sometimes go over without charge. I do not charge for my articles or advice when people write to me. But if they keep sucking and sucking then I do cut them off. See, it's all about energy exchange here. I also barter from time to time. I have to replenish the energy I give out or I'll fry myself and be broke and have to work even longer hours - viscious cycle if you let it be.
I did learn this from Jelaila, but she maniupulates this cosmic law to suit her needs and perverts it. The upstairs NC isn't happy, she's got her own issues, and perhaps they can't recall her walkin for some reason. There's always a reason. We'll see what it is someday.
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Post by Edward on Jul 29, 2005 14:49:07 GMT -5
LOL Well, I have to agree largely and disagree in some areas too. Funny I didn't see this the other day - weird actually especially since Jelaila popped into my thoughts last night. The single most valuable tool that I have used in my emotional clearing journey was the Keys of Compassion. For whatever reason they resonated, I understood them, and they were easy to use. I still recommend them as you all know. I also got the education of a lifetime doing the Galactic Counselor training and being a part of the GCN. That's not to say that it's thanks to Jelaila's teachings, etc., which I'll address in a moment. Liza mentioned eating crow...hehehe...well, yes and no for me. I am so far past where Jelaila was trying to take me now that it's a little comical to me now looking back. However, the experience itself has proved invaluable because it allowed me to grow in leaps and bounds - after painful lessons that is. But that's how we do it on the fast track to clearing right? It's all good with me now, but I do think that she's taken what Devin and company have given her and perverted it into money making. The NC upstairs has told me personally that she's out of control and in ego. So why is she still here? I don't know. I've gotten bits of it via feeling but nothing I can put into words. Anyway, I have taken all that was given to me via the NC and either removed it from my point of view (and website) or reworked it to what I believe is truth at this point and time. And I know if Jelaila is reading this, which she probably is as a guest if it's visible or someone will send it to her - Jelaila, you were out of integrity so many times dear heart and still are I assume, bless you because you taught me to stand up for my own. And I tried to talk with you but you stopped returning emails from me when all I wanted to do is say hello. So bless you, but don't even think you'll tell people I'm bitter or something - don't go there. If you want to talk, you can always email me. So that said, I do charge for my own sessions. I just upped it to $125 and I'll tell you why. It takes A LOT OF ENERGY to do a session. It literally drains me most of the time. To the point where if I even do 2 a day I am out for the rest of the day. So that's what my time, and energy, is worth. And my sessions are an hour, but sometimes go over without charge. I do not charge for my articles or advice when people write to me. But if they keep sucking and sucking then I do cut them off. See, it's all about energy exchange here. I also barter from time to time. I have to replenish the energy I give out or I'll fry myself and be broke and have to work even longer hours - viscious cycle if you let it be. I did learn this from Jelaila, but she maniupulates this cosmic law to suit her needs and perverts it. The upstairs NC isn't happy, she's got her own issues, and perhaps they can't recall her walkin for some reason. There's always a reason. We'll see what it is someday. To perhaps to get old habbits cleared and released. You see , I can very much releate to what she is working on teaching and then having a hard time practicing herself what she teaches. I can relate to that all too much. But I have come to understand now after continous attempts of helping others that the very thing I was saying and teaching I was lacking myself. I never employed the same stuff I told to others, I never took my own advice and hence I kept in a viicous cycle but I have been "waking" up to this and starting to see the set-up, starting to see the poweful words and advice I have given and starting to finally turn my own life around. It's been a hell of a struggle or shall I say "multiple and repeated lessons" but it's finally sinking in and I can see I am making progress. I am thinking that Jeliala is in the same situation sorta and in that respects she needs to also find this lesson and she will keep getting these things poping up in her life until she finally recognizes it and then works through it. So I really do hope she get's there. I know I have many issues , things and lessons yet to learn but that is the life we have choosen. There is no right or wrong just choices and there for every choice there will be new or in some cases same situations keep repeating themselves until one "does" get it. And that is the glory of life and this Earth School. Peace, Love and Enlightenment, Ed |
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Post by Nicole on Aug 4, 2005 15:27:26 GMT -5
I guess you're her advocate lately Ed and I'm her antagonist. I used to make excuses for her all the time Ed. What you've said is right, but geez, how long does it take a soul? Said a bit tongue in cheek of course, but frankly I got sick of taking her shit when she was holding me to a standard she would not even meet herself. Of course she needs to find the lesson, but that doesn't mean I will caretake her through it. My compassion for her truly began when I stopped making excuses for her and allowed her to atleast be in the pain that I kept trying to prevent her from being in. The truth is hard and it hurts sometimes |
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Post by Nicole on Aug 4, 2005 15:49:32 GMT -5
Ed, not trying to chew you out. I realize that's probably how this came across. I'm just done with excuses. Crap or get off the pot you know. My vision is for no more excuses for why someone repeatedly treats me badly, or whatever, you know? Yes growth, lessons to learn, etc. but do it on your own time and don't involve me in your dysfunction. I only like to get slapped in the face so many times |
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Post by Edward on Aug 4, 2005 23:30:19 GMT -5
I guess you're her advocate lately Ed and I'm her antagonist. I used to make excuses for her all the time Ed. What you've said is right, but geez, how long does it take a soul? Said a bit tongue in cheek of course, but frankly I got sick of taking her shit when she was holding me to a standard she would not even meet herself. Of course she needs to find the lesson, but that doesn't mean I will caretake her through it. My compassion for her truly began when I stopped making excuses for her and allowed her to atleast be in the pain that I kept trying to prevent her from being in. The truth is hard and it hurts sometimes I don't want to be her advocate. I applaud you, I really do. I know and understand where you are coming from. You just want people to get on and past their issues. Some may never get it(the lesson that is). So, just continue on what you have been doing and what you just stated here. You let her go, and allow for her to be in her own pain. That is excellent. I know it must hurt to see her being in this pain still. Just allow it for it, she needs to learn it as you have said. I am going to answer your other post too here. I do not think you are chewing me out. What you have described to me is that you have set your boundries, you don't want any more of it and that is it. That is awesome, don't take on any crap that doesn't belong to you and just let it be. You have done that and you have also explained it too. Like I said earlier and in the emotional clearing post. I totally understand. I know where you are coming from but that does not necessarily has to be the case(my understand that is) it is your decision and your choice and that is all that matters. Peace, Love and Enlightenment, Ed |
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Post by Nicole on Aug 5, 2005 8:13:39 GMT -5
Thanks Ed.
Much love to you!!
Nicole
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Post by Edward on Aug 5, 2005 11:48:56 GMT -5
and ((((((((Hugs)))))))))) to you.
Peace, Love and Enlightenment,
Ed
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No worries. I don't think you're missing much by not participating in any pricey workshop or anything like that. Though I think the booklets are pretty valuable where the psychological side or therapeutic side is concerned.
I believe there's always a gem in every lesson, good or bad.