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Post by Gunya on Dec 22, 2005 14:57:20 GMT -5
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Post by LilliHart on Dec 23, 2005 17:59:47 GMT -5
This is interesting but I am not so sure it resonates with me. I read through her entire site and for some reason it's just a little hard to believe she is an Immortal Master, as Toltec Naugual and all the other incredible things she says, and yet there is really nothing on her site that is unusal or of extraordinary interest...and the thing I dislike the most is that on her article about anger she has 9 very familiar steps you can take to resolve anger and they look a whole lot like Jelaila's Compassion thingy...sorry I can't remember the official name. Not that I am in any way a Jelaila advocate but I don't care for ANYONE who plagerises (sp) someone else's ideas in such a familiar way. And they copywrite on this woman's anger steps in 2004, long after Jelaila's. So I am in a quandry about her. I do like the idea of some of what she says about Atlantis and inner earth but am not sure her info on the Atlantean calendar is accurate or on her info about the inhabitants of inner earth. If it was as easy as that to enter, as she states thousands of Germans did after WWII then I can't hep but wonder what it's like down there...maybe there is a hell after all???
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Post by tiamat on Dec 24, 2005 12:07:07 GMT -5
Yeah and they have found the perfect place for the master race! Would you be refering to J's Keys of Compassion Lil? Have mine somewhere, will try and compare, if i can find them. They are in the attic somewhere! lol Interesting enough site though, thank you gunya
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Post by Nicole on Dec 24, 2005 15:33:18 GMT -5
Jelaila and Almine used to work very closely togther and still hook up from time to time, or when I was involved in the GCN they still did. So I am sure that she did not plagerize. She could have noted where she got them from, but I don't know what their arrangement on that is.
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Post by tiamat on Dec 24, 2005 16:33:03 GMT -5
Aha, mystery solved. saves me a trip up in the loft. Thanks Nicole
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Post by LilliHart on Dec 24, 2005 22:53:14 GMT -5
Yes, Keys to Compassion. things don't stick well in the brain these days.
Almine not only did not give Jelaila credit, but she changed wording and essentially claimed the process as her own.
Ophaniel, did you ever meet her? If so, what is she like? Just based on the pictures of her, she seems a bit of the dramatic, or should I say melodramatic.
I like the "idea" of what she says, but overall it doesn't sit well. And I agree, that deep within the earth is a great place for the master race. LOL
Oh well...
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Post by Gunya on Dec 24, 2005 22:53:43 GMT -5
Well basically its just information. I also take what feels right to me, leave the rest that doesn't "fit" and move on. The more we go through our lessons and experiences we realise that some things work for us and some don't. I feel the best way is to flow and enjoy the journey.
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Post by AgeA on Dec 24, 2005 23:25:31 GMT -5
Plagerize? Does it even matter who plagerizes what? We want to bring down this whole system where there is a need to plagearize and to survive each day. In the future I hope there will be no such thing as copyright and people 'souls' will quickly and effectively share ideas among each other just like in Spirit.
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Post by Nicole on Dec 25, 2005 11:39:49 GMT -5
There's a difference between sharing information and claiming it as your own. If you're not claiming to take credit for someone else's work then you should appropriately credit them. Take a look at Sowelu's many posts of other's work and how she is diligent to note where it came from, etc. and to honor their wishes for distributing their material. She does it to the letter. Most don't but most do make an effort.
Now, when we get into the thing that Almine allegedly did (I say allegedly because I admit I didn't read the whole page and am taking your word on it guys - just my disclaimer!), that's a gray area. I was trained as a Galactic Counselor as were some of you, but either way many of you have used the Keys. After using them to the letter as taught, I naturally put my own spin on it with what I believe works best. Could that be what Almine did? Found her own niche with the information?
If so, how does that infringe? Or does it? Should she have gotten permission? Or at least noted that her method is based on the Keys yadda yadda?
I have seen many who try to take credit for others ideas and I think it sucks. CREDIT for their ideas, not using and distributing them. It's an ego thing if you ask me - taking the credit and glory for something someone else put their energy into. So I do have a problem with that. But I admit there is a fine line. I would love for the info on my website to be distributed far and wide. But don't post it somewhere as if it's yours, ya know? So I stuck a copyright notice on each page to protect that and asked that it be noted in a specific way. It gnawed at me and I finally concluded that was appropriate.
But what Almine did - we don't know the arrangement she and Jelaila have so I guess we can't really say. I bet you money though that Jelaila has seen her website because I know she prowls around the net just like we all do.
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Post by Nicole on Dec 25, 2005 11:40:53 GMT -5
Oh and in case I wasn't clear, it does matter who plagerizes what AgeA. It's like writing a paper with ideas as your own when you've just copied the encyclopedia or someone else's stuff. That's just plain lying.
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Post by ADMIN on Dec 26, 2005 8:48:45 GMT -5
Just read her keys of compassion, just like J's but with different words. hehehehe, I really found her explanation of why prayers are not answered, kinda complicated..around the bush type of thing..taht no longer works. one doesn't get an answer from prayer because we are praying. You want answers, you command with love and you will get results. And I am one who has successfully learned to master this area, as my favorite one is tapping into my "Universal Account" and take what I need. ;D
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