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Post by zor7b on Aug 7, 2007 8:30:25 GMT -5
Yesterday my son Matt and his wife Patience gave birth to a little girl....AnnaLynn...makes me Grandfather for the second time....this is what life is about....the Wingmakers and all their channeled "nonsense" role-play......not real....as pertains to 3-d....what you are putting Shaun through ...is it real Nicolle ?..is it worth it....if the Heart expands and allows Love through ...it is ...if not why are you torturing him so.... June's lack of this energy apparent. and the list of who she turns on long...the latest being sher i elle....your loyalty admirable but sooner or later you will find out for yourself how quickly she turns as now that her leadership has been revoked no telling how nasty she will react....a good thing my shields are intact and in place as we both know who her target is....help her if you must....I forgive both of you. Love Mark
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Post by Nicole on Aug 7, 2007 9:33:00 GMT -5
Let's get one thing straight Mark, before I proceed to ignore any and all of your posts. I do not have a leader nor do I follow anyone, you are full of shit and ignorant as well, and you don't know jack about me and my life. I have read some of what you've been spewing out about me and others on the net and it's ridiculous. You are an embarassment and I wonder what YOU put Elaine through. Stop talking about me. Talk about yourself for a change.
And one more thing. I do not want, nor need, your forgiveness. I'm washing my hands of you once and for all. You are a lost cause, and that's coming from someone who never leaves anyone behind but I'm leaving you Mark. And stop reading my forum. I don't want your energy there.
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Post by zor7b on Aug 8, 2007 9:08:47 GMT -5
Dear Nicole As you well know there was a time we were friends until June told you to stop communications and without a word of why you xcommunicated me and removed me from your forum which you have the option of making private for members only to read.....you have a partial idea of my issues with the Wingmakers and basicaly parrot the company line from June....I have no desire to fight with you and her......it is you and June that carry the energy that keeps the battle going on....but as you do not listen to me this really serves no point this knowledge thus it probably is for the best that we do not directly communicate.....one final word.....who do you think you are saying I am a lost cause.....think about that Nicolle and then tell yourself you follow the path of Christ and the RETURN OF LIGHT.....that I question and challenge June of this there is no doubt ..to say I am a lost cause truly mean-spirited on your part but if nothing else from the time (much longer then you) that I have spent in communications with June Stephansen I have seen her ability to channel Wingmaker thoughts grow at geometrical proportions but her Heart has paid the price in that her compasssion for others has atrophied....to the extent that if you do not follow her path you are attacked ....that you have allowed yourself to become like her in this respect sad ....you used to like Michele Denman why not ask her some day why she left June's forum. I am not the only one that has issues with her. She may have access to all the knowledge in the World but her Heart is in the wrong place.....and what guides me wants her to correct this because with a little alignment she would become a tremendous force for good....my application to her group was a test for her because like it or not I have a connection to Kej and it is her denial of this via her extreme dislike of me personally that is the issue as when she is in this state her ego overides what she is being told to do re not only me but so many others that should be participating......that James Stevens, Paulo, Muriel,K.Caught,Ed (still the Key ), Kathe ,Rave,and many others are not there all working together wrong.....June does not foster the growth and acceptance that is needed ...we should all be equals working together not one directing traffic ....Group by now should be well over 100 that it is not is her responsability .....she is blinded by her ego and thinks it ok ...its not....Group by now should be doing wonderous things...Healing at the top of the list.....her and you fighting with me a waste of valuable energy and counterproductive....my lines are open to the situation improving....are yours ?
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Post by Nicole on Aug 8, 2007 9:56:11 GMT -5
If you are open to improvement, then work on yourself instead of maligning everyone else for their evilness Mark.
June never told me to stop communicating with anyone. I simply removed the unbalanced energy from my environment. The only person mean spirited is you Mark. Think about the things you say, the things you say about others, the way you try to force them via harsh and untrue words to accept you. Think about how you allow any errant energy that wants to to control you so that you will feel powerful. Think about your pot addiction and how you are using it to mask dealing with your Self. All of these words, all of this, is an effort to have someone else tell you you are right and ok and what a shame others don't want to be associated with you. You deliberately create imbalance so that you will be the focal point.
There is no working together. You are not working towards any goal of mine, and I won't be fooled to think that you are. You work against everyone Mark, even your Self. So no I can't, and won't, work with you. And I won't help you. You've asked for help before, and I gave it. But you don't help yourself. The universe helps those WHO HELP THEMSELVES.
I suggest that you stop your rantings here on EC. As someone told me yesterday, this is a sacred space. I will figure out what this means for me, this entire barage of attacks by you. But for you, you need to only post here with something uplifting or genuinely working on your Self. No more accusing June, me, anyone of anything. People here DONT CARE Mark. They are not going to respond to your negative publicity, and if they do then they have their own ego issues to work on and hopefully will do that. Next time you have an issue with someone, note that publically smearing them doesn't resolve that issue. And it doesn't ingratiate you with those whose forums you invade. It is disruptive. Let people decide for themselves if they like you or anyone else. Let them do it on their merits. Let go of the need to control the issue, or to assert yourself as powerful. Only you can do this. But I'm not going to put up with you soiling this place for much longer. Take note of that. Ask whichever energy is controlling you today if I mean business. Ask how much longer they want to persist and cause issue here before they must pay the consequences themselves, as you will.
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Post by zor7b on Aug 9, 2007 8:18:12 GMT -5
Dear Nicolle I have lost all desire to fight with you and as your mind is set as to who I am there is no point in trying to convince you otherwise...you are all right I am all wrong...you state that any goal I am working on is not anything you care to further....as my stated intention was Peace among all those that incarnated to be Wingmakers....I can only imagine that you think this a ruse or a joke on my part.....its not but as your mind is already set this is something for you to look or not look at....the veracity of....alot of what you suggest to me is good advice and I plan on following that which resonates to me.....as to June and her group I am not a member and henceforth to avoid triggering myself I plan on resisting the urge to read her public forum...as you requested earlier I will never again read the bluestarforum....without any triggers the etheric bonds should lessen . I seek Peace Nicolle...personal and Universal.....from your words I am recognizeing that my way of implementing this has had the adverse effect of that which I desire...for that awareness I thank you . A big World...many roads to travel...if June does not want me to be a part of her group time for me to let go of this notion as I can not force her to accept me...for this awareness I also thank you.I hope your day is a good one and that many nice things happen to you today. Mark
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Post by Nicole on Aug 9, 2007 9:14:11 GMT -5
You can't implement peace by forcing it down others throats or making threats. Implement the peace within yourself. That is what YOU have control over. I am at peace now, back into balance, and detached from this.
Please observe the peace here at EC as well, and if you have an issue take it up in the Vent/Rant forum where it is appropriate. That way if others have the desire to experience that energy they can make their own choice to read there.
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Post by zor7b on Aug 9, 2007 15:21:40 GMT -5
You are again right Nicolle I can not control a peace offered to others....all I can do is control my self and in this respect it is my game plan to stay away from all forums that have to do with Wingmakers as I have been too easily triggered to the negative by this energy whilst at the same time feeling I am justified in what I do because of past agreements with them.........my thinking of the now is whatever contracts I have made with them in the past is now null and void and that for my own well being I must let go of any and all things WM related.......could you confirm f through June whether this is true . ...I also am feeling detached from the volatility of the last few days.....I further recognize that this thread was manipulative of me in that I started out by annoucing a birth and then immediately began a foray against you and your beliefs. ...regardless of my intent that was wrong and I just wanted to acknowlege that I now see it as so....and as such owe you an apology which I am now attempting to make to you. I understand there is alot of space between us and alot we probably do not and may never see eye to eye on but putting all that aside re this incident I am sorry and just want to aplogize to you for my actions...... taking it a step further I was also manipulative and wrong in how I handled the Monikah passing thread.. and also owe you an apology for that .........I have read that confession is good for the Soul.....here is hoping that this awareness makes me a better person......time will tell .
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Post by zor7b on Aug 10, 2007 7:04:44 GMT -5
Re confirmation through June...this is no longer necessary as I awoke this morning knowing it was so.
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Post by Nicole on Aug 10, 2007 8:37:43 GMT -5
Awareness and reflection always takes one further down their path. But what you do with the awareness is what will propel you.
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Post by zor7b on Aug 11, 2007 9:48:19 GMT -5
For all the awareness strengthens the ego as the same time it opens one to one's true self...the Monad.........the test to allow the guidance to come without over-riding the information received by the Ego which grows stronger from the guidance received.....for many a catch 22 as their ego does ever so slightly alter the message received to fit the ego's take on the World......a double edged sword letting go letting God show you the Way . I say the following a lot lately..... Dear Elder Brothers and SiStars in the name of Christ and the White Light of his power I humbly ask your protection against the forces of evil and help keep me from the temptation of their influence.
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Post by Nicole on Aug 11, 2007 10:56:32 GMT -5
Mark,
I cannot tell you what to do, what path to take. Perhaps this has been my biggest flaw in my conversations with you. I did have an attachment to you growing on your path. I can't help it - I have an attachment to everyone succeeding in whatever way possible. I care. And yes, you have helped me to find detachment through this. Not only you - others as well - but you did play a part. Thank you.
That said, for me, it is an ever vigiliant, daily, by the second, task to make sure that my words, thoughts, feelings, and actions are in integrity and in the spirit of fairness and equity. It is ongoing. I continue to uncover areas where I am out of compliance. I have fully merged with Kareana now, but I still must remember to LISTEN to her, that I am not alone, and that I am not an island. I have to remember to ask her guidance. Even though we are one, she still respects my freewill. The Trinity (past, present (ME), and future (Kareana) must all be in accordance. As time goes on, yes it will be much more integrated. But my point is, it takes a lot of work. And YES, you must remember to ask for help. Ask for help to your guides of pure light, ask for help at this forum, to your family and friends - whoever you need it from. But you must remember to ask. This I had to learn, but when I ask it is always given.
Bless your heart Mark, and bless you on your journey wherever it may take you.
Anna i'elle
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Post by zor7b on Aug 11, 2007 13:13:33 GMT -5
Thank you Anna i'elle........your words have helped me also....and I wish you the best in all matters....working on integrity...it is an ongoing process as you have said...being on the watch every second of every minute of every hour ...today going to be a trial....going to a family wedding in a few minutes where many are at odds with one another....notably my wife and my parents who used to get along but now do not.....asking for alot of help from my Guides today....thanks again Nicolle....your words though at times hard for me to accept I know are from your Heart ....you have a great day today.
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Post by zor7b on Aug 14, 2007 11:05:21 GMT -5
My wife and parents did not get into it though other family members did and I found myself in the middle of a very unpleasant situation that caused alot of emotions to surface within me.....reaffirms to me that one can not force peace on another and I am trying to give the situation over to Christ within to handle how I react to others when the shit hits the fan....mediating and praying I persevere hoping that emotions calm and things work themselves out....not easy but seems to be the best course of action.....we shall see.
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Post by Nicole on Aug 14, 2007 12:39:54 GMT -5
Ask for help Mark. Ask the Creator, whoever your guides are, for help. They will give it to you, even if you cannot verbalize how they did it they will help you to find the path out of the darkness or whatever it be.
I felt I should clarify something. The person coming through NOW is Mark. The person I began this conversation with was not. I am not saying that Mark will be free of bad behavior (St Germaine has said before "We cannot help bad behavior"), but the energy signature is different. So next time, if there is one, I will remember to differentiate between who I am dealing with.
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Post by LilliHart on Aug 16, 2007 19:41:42 GMT -5
HEY FOR THE SAKE OF THE FORUM HERE, will you guys stop this stuff!!! At least take it to the vent and rant room. Now there are two or more threads of you guys arguing about stuff going on elsewhere on the web about crap that no one here knows about and not only is it taking up EC bandwidth it really doesn't belong here in a public arena on another site to clutter up the energy fields. Go fight it out between yourselves but PLEASE take it elsewhere.
Thanks. Liliahnah
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