Post by Nicole on Jan 3, 2005 17:45:25 GMT -5
Hey Peg!
Part of what I meant is that I must give the message as given. If I am guided I sometimes offer additional explanation, but only when guided, so I'm in integrity there.
Let me just post an article I wrote about Complete Integrity. Talking about it can indeed be like splitting hairs. It took me a long time to write this and get to the core. As you can see, my friends upstairs have had me working on integrity for awhile. And it looks like this is the perfect place to post it since the Founders talked about it.
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www.bluestarhome.net/articles/completeintegrity.html
It seems that in the past year that the concept of integrity has come up quite a bit for me. This has been mostly in relation to people that I have met via the Nibiruan Council Forums (NC Forums) and discussions that took place there. These discussions have often been heated debates over when or whether a person is in their integrity and they have never been resolved for me in any concrete way until recently.
In the beginning, I really had no idea that there could be so many different views about something that seemed as cut and dry as integrity! And I agonized over what I perceived as level-headed people dodging responsibility by skewing their definition of integrity. It was as if their Inner Children (ICs) were deliberately trying to make screwing over others OK as long as they were satisfied!
The straw that broke the camel’s back was when someone who I considered a close friend was, in my opinion, very much out of her integrity with a group of fellow Lightworkers. I’ll call her Weave*, and her actions affected me personally (even though I didn’t participate in the events) because they involved breaking agreements and a breach of trust. Basically, I was shocked and hurt by Weave’ actions, and my trust in her as a friend was blown to bits. The ensuing debate over her integrity or lack of it on the NC Forums also affected me because it simply did not make sense to me at all. You see, integrity is one of the longer, harder lessons that I’ve been working on with my own Self and Inner Child. I knew that this whole scenario was a reflection for me in some way, but at that point I didn’t know why or what it was exactly.
Like I said - obviously there was something left for me to learn about integrity, and after the initial shock of pain I was driven to figure it out. It took me some time, but I finally got over my emotional attachment to the technical (intellectual) definition of integrity and began to entertain questions about whether or not the definition was in fact complete and correct. After all, didn’t these people on the Forums (including Weave) make some good arguments? Weren’t their arguments heartfelt? The answer to both questions was yes, but none of the technical (intellectual) nor emotional (heartfelt) definitions that I came across covered all of the bases. Something about them was not complete.
What was missing here? Well, to be sure, I had to take the intellectual definitions that were swarming around me and check them against the emotions to see what felt right and what didn’t – and vice versa. It was basically finding a balanced approach to the problem. And isn’t it a balance of intellect and emotion that we strive to achieve to be multidimensional? Of course it is! And what follows is what I came up with.
What is Integrity?
There are many reasons why the definition of anything can vary widely from one person to another. It is my experience that it depends on where the person is both emotionally and intellectually because this drives our behavior. So if I am mostly intellectual and I feel very little, I’ll reject any emotional points of view. Likewise, if I am mostly emotional and feel very strongly, I may often reject logic and reason. Either way, I’m out of balance, and this spells trouble where integrity is concerned. The real kick in the arse is that nine times out of ten I won’t even realize it when I’m acting from either polarity and/or out of integrity!
So, there’s got to be a way to check myself in a situation and make sure that I’m acting from integrity. But to do this I have to know just what the heck the definition of integrity is. After doing some research and soul searching, I believe that the following definition encompasses the spirit of integrity.
Integrity is the state or quality of being entire or complete; wholeness; entireness; moral soundness; honesty.
Not only is this a complete definition that encompass the spirit of integrity, but at first glance, all of its components seem to work interchangeably (except perhaps moral soundness). In other words it includes all of the different ways that you can say this and mean the same thing, so if you and I prefer different words we’re still on the same page. As for moral soundness, it can vary from person to person. But for our intents and purposes here, we’ll define moral soundness as the desire to do unto others as we would have done to us in respect to being in integrity – the desire to be whole, complete, entire, and honest.
Complete Integrity
Until this point I had been mulling over the concept of Complete Integrity, but now I knew exactly what I was talking about. Complete Integrity consists of two things:
Being in integrity with Others
Being in integrity with Self (Involves the Inner Child)
Although they have much in common, integrity with Others and with the Self is not interchangeable. And in addition, you must approach both from a balance of emotion and intellect. More importantly, both are of equal importance!
Integrity with Others
And, as I mentioned, there was much debate in the NC Forums about Weave and her integrity. Many defended Weave and said that she had honored her Inner Child’s feelings and acted accordingly, and that because of this she was in fact in her integrity. But what about the agreements she had made with the other Lightworkers she was working with? Isn’t breaking agreements a complete disregard of integrity in itself?
My logical mind wanted to think that she did do the “right” thing by honoring her Inner Child, but I just couldn’t get there. The others did have a point though – if she was doing what she needed to do for her Inner Child, wasn’t that what she was supposed to be doing? The answer is yes, but there’s more to integrity than pleasing your Inner Child. The point is that integrity is a complete package – you can’t just do the “right thing” for yourself and disregard others whose needs you have already agreed to meet.
Weave’s integrity appeared to be one-sided and perhaps even conditional, as did the definitions of those I disagreed with on the NC Forums. I even asked her once “How am I supposed to have a relationship with you now?” As I said, I could not trust her to do the things she said she would do. On top of this, I began to question the integrity of all of the relationships that I had, including those on the NC Forums who I had been discussing integrity with. Could they be trusted? Or did we really see eye to eye but were focusing on different words?
(continued)
Part of what I meant is that I must give the message as given. If I am guided I sometimes offer additional explanation, but only when guided, so I'm in integrity there.
Let me just post an article I wrote about Complete Integrity. Talking about it can indeed be like splitting hairs. It took me a long time to write this and get to the core. As you can see, my friends upstairs have had me working on integrity for awhile. And it looks like this is the perfect place to post it since the Founders talked about it.
***************************
www.bluestarhome.net/articles/completeintegrity.html
It seems that in the past year that the concept of integrity has come up quite a bit for me. This has been mostly in relation to people that I have met via the Nibiruan Council Forums (NC Forums) and discussions that took place there. These discussions have often been heated debates over when or whether a person is in their integrity and they have never been resolved for me in any concrete way until recently.
In the beginning, I really had no idea that there could be so many different views about something that seemed as cut and dry as integrity! And I agonized over what I perceived as level-headed people dodging responsibility by skewing their definition of integrity. It was as if their Inner Children (ICs) were deliberately trying to make screwing over others OK as long as they were satisfied!
The straw that broke the camel’s back was when someone who I considered a close friend was, in my opinion, very much out of her integrity with a group of fellow Lightworkers. I’ll call her Weave*, and her actions affected me personally (even though I didn’t participate in the events) because they involved breaking agreements and a breach of trust. Basically, I was shocked and hurt by Weave’ actions, and my trust in her as a friend was blown to bits. The ensuing debate over her integrity or lack of it on the NC Forums also affected me because it simply did not make sense to me at all. You see, integrity is one of the longer, harder lessons that I’ve been working on with my own Self and Inner Child. I knew that this whole scenario was a reflection for me in some way, but at that point I didn’t know why or what it was exactly.
Like I said - obviously there was something left for me to learn about integrity, and after the initial shock of pain I was driven to figure it out. It took me some time, but I finally got over my emotional attachment to the technical (intellectual) definition of integrity and began to entertain questions about whether or not the definition was in fact complete and correct. After all, didn’t these people on the Forums (including Weave) make some good arguments? Weren’t their arguments heartfelt? The answer to both questions was yes, but none of the technical (intellectual) nor emotional (heartfelt) definitions that I came across covered all of the bases. Something about them was not complete.
What was missing here? Well, to be sure, I had to take the intellectual definitions that were swarming around me and check them against the emotions to see what felt right and what didn’t – and vice versa. It was basically finding a balanced approach to the problem. And isn’t it a balance of intellect and emotion that we strive to achieve to be multidimensional? Of course it is! And what follows is what I came up with.
What is Integrity?
There are many reasons why the definition of anything can vary widely from one person to another. It is my experience that it depends on where the person is both emotionally and intellectually because this drives our behavior. So if I am mostly intellectual and I feel very little, I’ll reject any emotional points of view. Likewise, if I am mostly emotional and feel very strongly, I may often reject logic and reason. Either way, I’m out of balance, and this spells trouble where integrity is concerned. The real kick in the arse is that nine times out of ten I won’t even realize it when I’m acting from either polarity and/or out of integrity!
So, there’s got to be a way to check myself in a situation and make sure that I’m acting from integrity. But to do this I have to know just what the heck the definition of integrity is. After doing some research and soul searching, I believe that the following definition encompasses the spirit of integrity.
Integrity is the state or quality of being entire or complete; wholeness; entireness; moral soundness; honesty.
Not only is this a complete definition that encompass the spirit of integrity, but at first glance, all of its components seem to work interchangeably (except perhaps moral soundness). In other words it includes all of the different ways that you can say this and mean the same thing, so if you and I prefer different words we’re still on the same page. As for moral soundness, it can vary from person to person. But for our intents and purposes here, we’ll define moral soundness as the desire to do unto others as we would have done to us in respect to being in integrity – the desire to be whole, complete, entire, and honest.
Complete Integrity
Until this point I had been mulling over the concept of Complete Integrity, but now I knew exactly what I was talking about. Complete Integrity consists of two things:
Being in integrity with Others
Being in integrity with Self (Involves the Inner Child)
Although they have much in common, integrity with Others and with the Self is not interchangeable. And in addition, you must approach both from a balance of emotion and intellect. More importantly, both are of equal importance!
Integrity with Others
And, as I mentioned, there was much debate in the NC Forums about Weave and her integrity. Many defended Weave and said that she had honored her Inner Child’s feelings and acted accordingly, and that because of this she was in fact in her integrity. But what about the agreements she had made with the other Lightworkers she was working with? Isn’t breaking agreements a complete disregard of integrity in itself?
My logical mind wanted to think that she did do the “right” thing by honoring her Inner Child, but I just couldn’t get there. The others did have a point though – if she was doing what she needed to do for her Inner Child, wasn’t that what she was supposed to be doing? The answer is yes, but there’s more to integrity than pleasing your Inner Child. The point is that integrity is a complete package – you can’t just do the “right thing” for yourself and disregard others whose needs you have already agreed to meet.
Weave’s integrity appeared to be one-sided and perhaps even conditional, as did the definitions of those I disagreed with on the NC Forums. I even asked her once “How am I supposed to have a relationship with you now?” As I said, I could not trust her to do the things she said she would do. On top of this, I began to question the integrity of all of the relationships that I had, including those on the NC Forums who I had been discussing integrity with. Could they be trusted? Or did we really see eye to eye but were focusing on different words?
(continued)
