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Post by Gunya on Feb 22, 2005 14:25:42 GMT -5
hi guys Has anybody tried The Nibiruan Council Liver cleanse if so, were there any results? thanks.
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Post by Nicole on Feb 22, 2005 16:06:11 GMT -5
Yes and I didn't get many results, but I didn't make any agreements with my Inner Child beforehand (this isn't in the booklet, was told to me afterwards). However, I know of many who have gotten results that they could see and feel. So I guess it varies.
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Post by edge19 on Mar 1, 2005 14:58:17 GMT -5
Hi Nicole,
I'm kind of confused about your post. I thought a liver cleanse was something that you drank? Is it ok to ask what you meant about not agreeing with your inner child? Is this something that is done through meditation? I'm actually interested because, like I said I have an alcohol problem so maybe this could help me? Thanks, have a great day. Rob
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Post by Nicole on Mar 1, 2005 16:23:34 GMT -5
Hey Rob,
The liver cleanse is something you drink but when I drank it I just barely went to the bathroom. I was, however, pretty sick with my stomach for a few days. When I inquired about this I was told by Jelaila that I should have made agreements with my inner child. Apparently she was afraid to release all of the emotional gunk that the liver cleanse is designed to release. Well, it wasn't in her booklet so how did I know? ! ?
Anyway, before you can release physically you have to release emotionally, and you can only do that when you're not afraid to, i.e., your Inner Child has to not be afraid and agree to let you. My Inner Child was afraid to release because we had a lot of crap built up and she was scared we'd be destructive. So I didn't release a darn thing - no stones or even much poop!
Hope that helps!
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Post by skmj on Mar 1, 2005 19:17:58 GMT -5
Hi Gunya, Yes.. I have performed a liver cleanse with excellent results. The rather drastic formula and expected results can be found at www.curezone.com/cleanse/liver/huldas_recipe.asp. I find drinking apple juice which contains malic acid and pectins to soften the gall for a full week prior to this liver cleanse gives and incredibly moving result. I combine this practice with nasal irrigation which involves running warm salt water through the sinus and nasal passages, performed by the Indians and referred to as Jalaneti. See www.healthandyoga.com/html/clean/nasal.html . It takes a little getting used to but once done the clarity gained is well worth it. Combining these practices provides me an effective way of quickly moving the physical component of unprocessed emotional junk on the downward path while simulataneously processing it through the pineal/crown. After the initial purge I performed 5 years ago, I now proceed with a liver cleanse every 6 month or so just to clear the way. One lady I spoke to was in the concentration camps in Germany and believes she carried a lot of the emotions of that experience and cleared them with the liver cleanse. 50+ years of crystallised gall!! As an aside, Barbara Brennan in 'Healing Hands' 'Hands Of Light' says anger crystalises as gall stones and used an anti-malaria medication, benzoquinine to dissolve and move stagnant liver energy in one of her healing case studies.. the Healing Of David. David also used the common party drug, ecstacy or MDMA to open his pineal to allow processing of these emotions and increase his aura. His pineal was greatly clouded by years of clouding by marijuana use. Jelaila Starr of the Nibiruancouncil says you strip 4-6 layers of emotional junk with the liver cleanse. The combined liver cleanse and Jalaneti are to me one of the cheapest, most effective health practices of the many I've tried . The are definitely highly recommended. Cheery, sKMj
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Post by Nicole on Mar 1, 2005 19:52:57 GMT -5
skMj,
So you're saying sinus stuff is emotional gunk too? I'm asking because I'm totally blocked and have been for 3 weeks. Nothing will open the nasal passages hardly.
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Post by Sowelu on Mar 1, 2005 20:06:27 GMT -5
Just thought I'd pop in here with my own experience about the sinuses. When new information is downloaded, for me, it often gets placed there, causing me to feel like I have a cold or sinus trouble. If I allow it "slow down" or intend to relax the sinus area in meditation, the full feeling leaves, energy/information travels through/to my cells, and I eventually bring it to conscious awareness and learn to apply it.
Early on, guidance would alert me with a phrasing that might help with understanding the concept: ""Knowledge placed in nasal sinus area. Abjection to feel it open."
Abject \Ab*ject"\, v. t. [From {Abject}, a.] To cast off or down; hence, to abase; to degrade; to lower
(They're very precise with words, and the feeling was to literally let the "stuff" in the sinus area flow downward without resistance.)
Incoming energy, or our reception of it, regardless of where we're taking it in, is life force or "the feminine" aspect of it until it's integrated (as I understand it at this point). Once we reveal what it is, we've applied our masculine, so to speak, and it becomes balanced within us.
So... the whole reason I brought that up was to offer the possibility that it is not necessarily "emotion" causing sinus difficulties, but if we "attach" to it being this or that and we are incorrect... then we've "created" a disease in ourselves.
I guess what I'm talking about here is a literal, microbiological level of "allowing" and "going with the flow" - heh heh. Seriously, though. Misunderstanding it (thinking it's a cold or flu or somethig "wrong") has a similar impact on us as when we misunderstand our emotions... it causes dis-ease. Because we "bind" to the energy in a false way, or inappropriately, causing distortion.
Just my own experience with the sinuses in particular. Take or toss as you see fit.
Love you! Sowelu
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Post by Nicole on Mar 1, 2005 20:33:27 GMT -5
So I'm attacking it while I should be going with the flow.
I will meditate tonight to see if I can get it flowing. But I still need some congestion relief, so I'll just go with the flow and do what I have to do.
Hadn't thought of it that way! Thanks!
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Post by skmj on Mar 2, 2005 2:14:03 GMT -5
Hi Nicole,
Sure.. the sinus stuff could have been emotional junk. For me the blocked sinuses and throat problems caused problems with audio-visual integration. Hearing was difficult and brain fod was terrible. For me I believe it was the result of a completely inappropriate 'western' standard diet unsuitable for my genetics. In hindsight such an experience was invaluable. Such 'darkness' meant I developed my intuition and telepathic skills for which I am grateful.
I find that mucous forming dairy foods give me a lot of grief and perhaps feed bacterial in my throat (usually staph). Since the throat, nose and ears are all interlinked this can cause serious issues. My colleague at work is completely off dairy for this reason.
The dairy connection goes deeper still. Milk is a good tryptophan source, used to create our serotonin and melatonin. Serotonin is a vasoconstrictor, blocking the bronchials and perhaps the sinuses. Adrenaline or adenosine can act as a vasodilator to counter this effect. Some literature even says that high serotonin levels cause asthma.
If you must have dairy the only one I'd consider is age hardened cheese. It has high levels of tyrosine as well, used to manufacture our adrenaline, contains calcium and doesn't promote candida growth.
I'm sure free flow is coming your way!!
Cheery, sKMj
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Post by Nicole on Mar 2, 2005 8:19:40 GMT -5
Great that you brought up milk skMj! I have pretty much been off dairy for years after learning it isn't too good for me. I eat a little cheese and some yogurt here and there but mostly drink soy milk. So I don't think dairy is a factor.
I did visualize the flow last night and have opened up some. Not 100% but I can tell a difference. And I'm still doing the colliodial silver nose spray. I'm tons better today than I was two days ago! Still having to take stuff to breathe at night but much better!
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Post by MarliesC on Mar 2, 2005 14:54:54 GMT -5
Nicole, can you do a liver cleanse when you gallbladder is acting up?
Mine seems to be acting up, don't know what brought it on. I would prefer to treat it more naturally, so would a liver cleanse help?
Thanks
Marlies
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Post by Nicole on Mar 2, 2005 15:03:32 GMT -5
Well Marlies, if I remember correctly, well, it's either the liver that passes stones into the gallbladder or vice versa. I think it's the liver that passes them to the gallbladder, but look it up. Then the cleanse actually causes the gallbladder to spasm supposedly and release the stones.
So I guess it would help, or it seems so to me.
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Post by MarliesC on Mar 2, 2005 17:30:51 GMT -5
Thanks Nicole, I will look into it.
Marlies
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Post by skmj on Mar 3, 2005 0:04:17 GMT -5
Hi MarliesC - my understanding is that the liver cleanse should really be called a 'Gallbladder flush'. So yes, will definitely help if it is playing up. Epsons salts with warm water can help with a spasming gallbladder. You may also experience lower-mid back pain if the gallbladder is blocked and expands.
Cheery, sKMj
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Post by spirit4444 on Mar 3, 2005 8:33:53 GMT -5
HI Gang: I wonder what is going on right now that we are all having gall bladder pain. I could hardly eat anything with fat in it..I was doubled over in pain. I plan to do Hulda's liver lcdeanse, too. It it suppossed to be the best. Go to the link higher up on this page. Its explains what is happening in your body, too..that bile is made by the liver and goes to the gallbladder and is stored. If the ducts get blocked in the liver it can get backed up too. So the cleanse takes care of the liver and gb. Have a good cleanse. I am told also apple juice the week before helps to soften the stones, and a parasite cleanse helps too..as they form the stones around them. Love, Spirit
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